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ringo
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Message 1096 of 1143 (840834)
10-04-2018 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1091 by creation
10-04-2018 3:18 PM


Re: nature of time
creation writes:

Creationism is the belief in God creating everything. You should not confuse some historical attempts at explaining how the evidences fit with a creation, with creation itself.


No, creationISM is a contempt for science - which you have admitted to having - and the attempt to prove that science is wrong. It has always failed to do so.

The belief in a creator is not creationISM unless it sets itself in opposition to science.

creation writes:

My approach has been more one of looking at the real premises and fundamental core beliefs that are used in origin sciences.


Your approach on this forum has been to parrot Points Refuted A Thousand Times. You have never made an attempt to seriously discuss how stupid those points are. I have suggested to you several times that you should pick one topic and discuss it. This running around from topic to topic and blathering nonsense isn't impressing amybody - except maybe your teachers.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1097 of 1143 (840845)
10-04-2018 4:34 PM
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10-04-2018 3:36 PM


Re: nature of time
The distance to SN1987A was measured by trigonometry, not parallax.
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Tanypteryx
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Message 1098 of 1143 (840858)
10-04-2018 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1096 by ringo
10-04-2018 3:46 PM


Re: nature of time
Your approach on this forum has been to parrot Points Refuted A Thousand Times. You have never made an attempt to seriously discuss how stupid those points are. I have suggested to you several times that you should pick one topic and discuss it. This running around from topic to topic and blathering nonsense isn't impressing anybody - except maybe your teachers.

He is just a troll. When you try to read his nonsense it's pretty convincing evidence that he has never had a teacher who was qualified to teach.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1099 of 1143 (840864)
10-04-2018 8:49 PM
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10-04-2018 7:11 PM


Re: nature of time
That's an unwarranted slur against teachers. I doubt the best teacher in the world could teach him anything. He knows it all already. Tres Trumpian.
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Tanypteryx
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Message 1100 of 1143 (840865)
10-04-2018 9:55 PM
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10-04-2018 8:49 PM


Re: nature of time
That's an unwarranted slur against teachers. I doubt the best teacher in the world could teach him anything.

Oh, I agree. I meant that he writes and thinks as if he never had a teacher. DunningKruger effect.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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creation
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Message 1101 of 1143 (840908)
10-05-2018 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1097 by JonF
10-04-2018 4:34 PM


Re: nature of time
Using a base line from this solar system consisting of millions of miles of space...and time.

Using trig to make the line to the star equal with the base line is using belief that there is time and space at all points that are the same. That is religion with a trig dress on.


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Message 1102 of 1143 (840909)
10-05-2018 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1096 by ringo
10-04-2018 3:46 PM


Re: nature of time
You have not even really addressed the issues let alone offered anything to refute.
You offer religion and beliefs and attitude.

Creation believers have the right and duty to question whacked out worldly wise men making weird and baseless anti creation claims.


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ringo
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Message 1103 of 1143 (840912)
10-05-2018 12:14 PM
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10-05-2018 12:04 PM


Re: nature of time
creation writes:

You have not even really addressed the issues let alone offered anything to refute.


That's what I'm telling you. Pick an issue. Address that issue. Read the responses. Reply to the responses.

creation writes:

Creation believers have the right and duty to question whacked out worldly wise men making weird and baseless anti creation claims.


But they don't have the ability. You can't question something intelligently if you don't understand it - and you clearly don't understand page one of your elementary school science book.

Your complaints are very shallow. Dig deeper.


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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JonF
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Message 1104 of 1143 (840915)
10-05-2018 12:20 PM
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10-05-2018 12:02 PM


Re: nature of time
Using a base line from this solar system consisting of millions of miles of space...and time.

Bzzzzzt! Wrong. Thanks for playing, and here's a copy of the home game for you.
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creation
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Message 1105 of 1143 (840956)
10-05-2018 11:21 PM
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10-05-2018 12:20 PM


Re: nature of time
I am right you are wrong. Feel free to demonstrate how parallax trig does not use a base line from the solar system. Ha.
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Message 1106 of 1143 (840957)
10-05-2018 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1103 by ringo
10-05-2018 12:14 PM


Re: nature of time
Empty blather aside, feel free to post some point that you can actually support and discuss. This is not a thread about trying to sound tuff.
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ringo
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Message 1107 of 1143 (840990)
10-06-2018 12:09 PM
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10-05-2018 11:22 PM


Re: nature of time
creation writes:

Empty blather aside, feel free to post some point that you can actually support and discuss.


You're the one who claims that science is wrong. You pick a topic and refute it.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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JonF
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Message 1108 of 1143 (841000)
10-06-2018 1:55 PM
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10-05-2018 11:21 PM


Re: nature of time
The distance to SN1987A was not measured by parallax. As I noted. The baseline was the distance from the supernova to the surrounding ring of debris. Feel free to Google up some of the clear explanations.
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Message 1109 of 1143 (841119)
10-08-2018 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1104 by JonF
10-05-2018 12:20 PM


swat
Look it up...a parallax measure has a base line. If you claim otherwise, do more than buzz around.
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Message 1110 of 1143 (841120)
10-08-2018 10:07 AM
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10-08-2018 9:58 AM


Re: swat
The distance to SN1987A was not measured by parallax. Do try to keep up.
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