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Message 1201 of 1273 (842303)
10-29-2018 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1197 by RAZD
10-28-2018 9:16 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Despite your personal inability to see all your zombified so called correlations rest on one belief and one belief alone, that you cannot address, let alone prove, you are defeated.
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Message 1202 of 1273 (842304)
10-29-2018 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1196 by ringo
10-28-2018 2:13 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Evil folks are not those we should ask questions from.
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Message 1203 of 1273 (842305)
10-29-2018 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1195 by Tanypteryx
10-28-2018 12:51 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Far as I am concerned the absolutely overwhelming evidence in most records of antiquity by mankind of spirits is evidence spirits existed. Since science knows nothing about anything to do with the spiritual, it is sidelined. Get out the dunce cap for science on this issue. Certainly we should not ask science if spirits are real or not. They are truly clueless.
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Message 1204 of 1273 (842307)
10-29-2018 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1203 by creation
10-29-2018 10:41 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Far as I am concerned the absolutely overwhelming evidence in most records of antiquity by mankind of spirits is evidence spirits existed.

And yet still not one shred of physical evidence. Grow up.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1205 of 1273 (842313)
10-29-2018 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1202 by creation
10-29-2018 10:39 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:

Evil folks are not those we should ask questions from.


Then what are you doing here?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1206 of 1273 (842316)
10-29-2018 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1200 by creation
10-29-2018 10:34 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
The bible says Satan appears as an angel of light. So if some spirit calling himself Gabriel appeared to some guy, I see no problem with that.

If it had actually been Gabriel, we could tell. Every time Gabe came to earth, if I recall, it had to do with announcing the coming of One Person. Jesus.

And that is all religious teaching. If that were to be taught in US public school it would have to be in a comparative religion class with many other religions presented on an equal basis.

It certainly does not belong in any science class nor any history class.

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Message 1207 of 1273 (842318)
10-29-2018 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1201 by creation
10-29-2018 10:37 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Despite your personal inability to see all your zombified so called correlations rest on one belief and one belief alone, that you cannot address, let alone prove, ...

LOL the irony.

You have not established that they are beliefs rather than evidence based conclusions -- your failing, not mine.

You have made claims based on your beliefs alone, and think they are as credible as science. They aren't, and the reason they aren't is the total lack of supporting evidence that you have failed to present.

... you are defeated.

By a failed empty personal fantasy assertion? Somehow I think not.

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Message 1208 of 1273 (842354)
10-30-2018 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1189 by RAZD
10-27-2018 4:33 PM


Re: The atheist biologist issue ...
RAZD u said
"That's hardly a valid reason to throw out the whole field"

Never said i threw out the whole field. In fact I told u that I think the ToE of humans is quite probable. I thought u were more reasonable than that

And Tanypteryx argues "CREATIONIST". Hehehe classic

I'll try again to lay out my points on why Dawkins comes across as suspicious to me from an agnostics perspective

This is the part of the interview in question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoncJBrrdQ8

1- The atheist position is one of choice not scientific.
2- His written heaps of books and spent hours on lectures exclusively on religion
3- His allowance for possible alien creation while refusing to entertain any possibility of a deity creation
4- His inability to articulate a scientific explanation
5- His admission that we just don't know

Surely u can see how at least one of these points draws suspicion

Edited by Porkncheese, : No reason given.


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Message 1209 of 1273 (842372)
10-30-2018 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1207 by RAZD
10-29-2018 1:13 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
You are defeated by your inability to show your claims anything more than biased and belief based hooey.
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Message 1210 of 1273 (842373)
10-30-2018 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1206 by RAZD
10-29-2018 1:08 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Not all that is taught in schools is science. This is news? Even the stuff that is taught as science filled with belief.

There are comparative religions courses for example. They might deal in spirits in some way. For example the spirit that Mohamed spoke to. Nothing to do with natural only limited little science! How about sex ed? History..etc etc? It is not all science.


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Message 1211 of 1273 (842375)
10-30-2018 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1204 by Tanypteryx
10-29-2018 11:22 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Records are physical. This is news? You have not a shred of evidence no spirits existed as they claim. Nada. Zip. Squat. Zero.
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Message 1212 of 1273 (842376)
10-30-2018 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1205 by ringo
10-29-2018 12:00 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Informing would be teachers they were actually clueless. In darkness. Ignorant. Liars. Fable mongers...etc.
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Message 1213 of 1273 (842377)
10-30-2018 1:04 PM
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10-30-2018 1:00 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
creation writes:

Informing would be teachers they were actually clueless. In darkness. Ignorant. Liars. Fable mongers...etc.


But you're not "informing" anybody of anything. You're just making a fool of yourself. You have no cogent argument against science, much less any evidence to back up your ranting. And you don't know anything about the Bible either.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1214 of 1273 (842382)
10-30-2018 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1211 by creation
10-30-2018 12:59 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
You have not a shred of evidence no spirits existed as they claim. Nada. Zip. Squat. Zero.

Are you daft? The Tooth Fairy is imaginary. Fiction.

You have not a shred of evidence spirits existed as they claim. Nada. Zip. Squat. Zero.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1215 of 1273 (842384)
10-30-2018 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1210 by creation
10-30-2018 12:58 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
For example the spirit that Mohamed spoke to

That would be the angel Gabriel.

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


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