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Author Topic:   Ignorant, stupid or insane? (Or maybe wicked?)
nwr
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Message 10 of 89 (561862)
05-23-2010 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by foxj82
05-23-2010 9:58 PM


Re: Faith Verus Fact
foxj82 writes:
I recently had a pair of creationalist's knocking on my door, presented me with leaflets and offered to discuss their view.
I have not got a religious back ground and mainly have the view myself that, everyone has the right to see the world through their own eyes and interpret their own conclusions.
I usually tell them, very politely, that I like to keep my religious views to myself, and that I prefer that they do likewise. That usually avoids the hassle.
By the way, welcome to evcforum.

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nwr
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Message 12 of 89 (561870)
05-24-2010 1:09 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by ZenMonkey
05-23-2010 10:49 PM


Re: Any takers?
I don't want to get into an actual debate on this. But I'll comment.
It seems to me that you have to distinguish between rank and file creationists, who might just be poorly informed and confused, and the creationist leaders some of whom are quite devious.

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Message 34 of 89 (562033)
05-25-2010 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by slevesque
05-24-2010 11:08 PM


Re: Any takers?
slevesque writes:
A creationist who has in depth study of the many line of evidence that relate to the theory of evolution (therefore not ignorant), and also is considered an intelligent person who is very well educated (PhD style, therefore not 'stupid') and also shows absolutely no characteristics of mental illness (therefore not insane). And finally, he has renounced some high paying jobs in order to become an active proponent of creationism (therefore most probably not wicked)
In what category does this person fall into ?
That pretty much characterizes somebody who is an old earth creationist and theistic evolutionist.

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Message 51 of 89 (586065)
10-10-2010 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Minnemooseus
10-10-2010 10:07 PM


Re: Behe's a theistic evolutionist
Minnemooseus writes:
I still find it mysterious that he feels the need to find those fingerprints.
Perhaps he was having a crisis of faith, and needed this argument to reassure himself.

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