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Author Topic:   Opening the doors to creationism in British Schools?
Larni
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Message 61 of 129 (621692)
06-28-2011 5:01 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Robert Byers
06-28-2011 3:18 AM


Creationism in subjects dealing with conclusions about origins is banned indeed.

The thing to remember is that religion is not science; it does not have predictive power.

What you are suggesting is that theology gets taught in science: as there are many theologies, how can there be enough time to examine all the creation stories.

Surely we should only teach science in a science class.

Unless you are asserting that the various theologies are science?


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Message 76 of 129 (623983)
07-15-2011 4:47 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by IamJoseph
07-15-2011 2:30 AM


Big bang cosmology?

Do I win 5?


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Message 82 of 129 (624026)
07-15-2011 1:11 PM
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07-15-2011 5:10 AM


How would you give your cosmology lecture 3,500 years ago

That's irrelevant.

An alternative to creationism is big bang cosmology.

I've no idea why you think I would need to explain it to people in black and white times.


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Larni
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Message 85 of 129 (624311)
07-17-2011 7:28 AM
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07-17-2011 7:24 AM


Again, irrelevant
That's irrelevant.

An alternative to creationism is big bang cosmology.

I've no idea why you think I would need to explain it to people in future times.


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Larni
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Message 91 of 129 (624661)
07-19-2011 9:14 AM
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07-19-2011 5:15 AM


Understand there are only two options as viable and credible for the emergence of the universe. One of them is Creationism. I know of no aternatives to it - do you?

So, is there no alternative to Creationism? Even though you just said there were two viable and credible options for the emergence of the universe?

Someone suggested cosmology - which is an ubsurd premise, being part of Creationism.

Cosmology is not part of Creationism.

Proof: Cosmology is science and creationism is bronze age tribal myth.


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Larni
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Message 94 of 129 (624696)
07-19-2011 12:59 PM
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07-19-2011 9:20 AM


The two are: a Creator based creation, or not. In a finite realm, the former wins from a scientific POV.

Once again, you provide no evidence to support you point! Again and again you pontificate about what you believe to be real without any evidencery support.

As for saying that Genesis is the first recording of what would be cosmology I take it you are completely unaware of the Summarian creation myth that predates Genisis by a looooong time.

Happy to educate you in theology an area you are (along with science) obviously deficient in.

Let me guess, you did either humanities or engineering at university.


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Message 108 of 129 (625435)
07-23-2011 5:03 AM
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07-22-2011 10:43 PM


When you say that you have studied, exactly what level of study did you formally reach: degree, masters or doctorate?
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Larni
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Message 119 of 129 (625580)
07-24-2011 6:33 AM
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07-23-2011 8:34 PM


Yes I hold a B in Architecture. You?

What is a B? B tech, BA? I'm confused.

And Architecture is hardly a science.

Myself? MSc in Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.

My point remains that you appear to know fuck all about the scientific methodology.


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Message 121 of 129 (625592)
07-24-2011 8:25 AM
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07-24-2011 7:29 AM


I'm sorry but I don't see how that website answers my question.

And as an architect I was dead on by guessing you either did a humanity or engineering.

Still no idea was a 'B' in architecture is.


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Message 124 of 129 (625603)
07-24-2011 11:17 AM
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07-24-2011 9:49 AM


Re: World of his own.
Is it really confusing to you guys? A simple metaphor, as an expressionism as to why we have no idea of our origins? Its like a numeriology, only here it is fixed in an escapabale mode. When we look at the structure of this second alphabet, we find it open only on the < GO FORTH facet [look at it!], and it is followed by a command to GO FORTH AND HAVE DOMINION OF ALL THE WORLDS. Science becomes bigger with a good expression.

That command is also the only answer to today's climate problem. Like how about a dome city on the moon in a 100 years and five bases on Mars - put all that money and energy here instead? Its not even an optional thing. Answers can also be seen in clever expressionisms. Like God does not play dice; why did the apple fall down and not up; Let there be light; etc?

What the fucking hell are you talking about?


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Message 126 of 129 (625615)
07-24-2011 2:02 PM
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07-24-2011 12:56 PM


Re: World of his own.
I looked up those symptoms in the DSM-IV:

http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm.html

Best I can identify, and I would feel confident to rule out the negative symptoms of schizophrenia (at least) is that IAJ is a twat.

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Message 128 of 129 (625623)
07-24-2011 3:59 PM
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07-24-2011 2:11 PM


Re: World of his own.
The eternal question of when does one pathologise idiocy?
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