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hotjer
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Message 16 of 33 (563478)
06-05-2010 5:45 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Blue Jay
06-04-2010 9:52 PM


Re: IamBluejay
That hurts to read for any person, especially for a person like me, who wrote an 30 pages assignment in college about the fourth dimension in spatial sense 8C

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lyx2no
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Message 17 of 33 (563512)
06-05-2010 1:35 PM


Thank you all
Firstly, sorry for the hit and run, but I’ll be stuck with this for a month or so. I don’t want any of you to think I’m disinterested in my own thread.
Secondly, can any of you take the analysis a bit deeper? I can’t quite explain what I mean by that. If I could I’d be half way to having done it myself.
When I copy one of the able posters I feel as if I’m developing another tool of the trade.
Bluejay, when you did IaJ, did you feel yourself doing a parody of IaJ. If you were to do a Dr. Adequate something we should all do more of would you feel as if you were doing a parody.
I’m I making any sense?
I’m suffering from confusion right about now and am looking to break the blockage.
Once again, thanks to all.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 18 of 33 (563513)
06-05-2010 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by cavediver
06-04-2010 7:05 PM


Re: Double Fail
Hi cavediver
I like Coyotes solution in 10 better.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 19 of 33 (563514)
06-05-2010 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by hotjer
06-04-2010 7:22 PM


Hellow nwr
I was wondering whether you tried to see if folks could see through the mud and figure out if you were talking as a evo or creo.
I was, but when push came to shove, I couldn’t not explain myself.
I cannot kiss; that is the humour of it; but, adieu.
Nym: Henry V; Act ii, Scene.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 20 of 33 (563515)
06-05-2010 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Modulous
06-04-2010 7:40 PM


Re: How's my gibberish?
Hi Modulous
That is so good that I don’t even know what it means. Is there actually a point in there? When composing it did you feel as if you were copying a style or parodying a style? I can parody not as good as that but I feel skeezy trying to pass it off as legit.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 21 of 33 (563516)
06-05-2010 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Coyote
06-04-2010 7:48 PM


Re: How's my gibberish?
Thank you, Coyote, it’s always nice to know the names of our foibles.
Poe’s Law could explain why I’m incapable of coping it without feeling like I’m parodying it. My brain is immediately routing it to my funny bone.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 22 of 33 (563517)
06-05-2010 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Buzsaw
06-04-2010 8:53 PM


Re: Who bought lyx beer?
Hi Buzsaw
Caution: Avoid where ever lyx2no's been.
Just like you to avoid your own advice, but a beautiful example of what I’m getting at. You get a 5 rating.
And I roundly second your welcome to ooh-child.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Dr Adequate
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Message 23 of 33 (563519)
06-05-2010 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by lyx2no
06-05-2010 1:35 PM


Bluejay, when you did IaJ, did you feel yourself doing a parody of IaJ. If you were to do a Dr. Adequate something we should all do more of would you feel as if you were doing a parody.
Let us be more precise --- or even (if it is within your capacity) actually truthful.
Perhaps in the first place I should ask you whether is is the style of my posts of which you should like to produce a pastiche, or whether it is the factual accuracy of my posts that you wish to emulate.
If it is merely the style, then I fear that this may be beyond your abilities. If, on the other hand, you wish to imitate me by telling the truth, then this is an aim that you may easily achieve by the simple method of not telling lies: and I should advise you to do so.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Modulous
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Message 24 of 33 (563620)
06-06-2010 6:28 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by lyx2no
06-05-2010 1:39 PM


Re: How's my gibberish?
The theme was: My words are merely too cunning for you to understand them because you are living in denial about the truth of god so you are blinded by unreason. I just threw in a bunch of typical non sequiturs, ideas that didn't really ever go anywhere and confused grammar indicative of a person starting one idea and finishing with another one.
I find it difficult to copy anybody's style; I can't tell the difference between copying and parodying in this case.

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lyx2no
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Message 25 of 33 (563779)
06-06-2010 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Dr Adequate
06-05-2010 1:45 PM


It wasn’t your capacity for tangents honest.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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lyx2no
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Message 26 of 33 (563782)
06-06-2010 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Modulous
06-06-2010 6:28 AM


Most Excellent Gibberish?
The theme was: My words are merely too cunning for you to understand them
I can’t argue with that now, can I?
I find it difficult to copy anybody's style
I’m not just talking about the straight out copying of someone else’s style, nor as mockery. The Effective Posting Styles (And Suggested Improvements) thread suggests that different styles work best for and on certain individuals. So having multiple styles of argument at ones disposal should be an asset. Is there a group of people that Teslaesque arguments work on? I do think Coyote hit the nail on the head with Poe's law as to why they are indistinguishable from parody.

"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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ooh-child
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Message 27 of 33 (564129)
06-08-2010 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Buzsaw
06-04-2010 8:53 PM


Re: Who bought lyx beer?
Thank you Buz (and lyx) for the welcome - I've been a lurker for a long, long time. It took me a few years just to get up the nerve to register.
So even though I don't post much, I feel like I know quite a lot about this fine place.

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Message 28 of 33 (564207)
06-09-2010 12:01 AM


An exchange between Brad McFall and Tranquility Base
A series of message in the Brad McFall topic:
Brad McFall, in message 21, writes:
In NEWS AND VIEWS of the current NATURE is an article by Michor and Nowak titled "The good, the bad and the lonely" with the SUBtitle-abstract "In game theory, 'loners' who choose not to participate in fact promote cooperation between players. The dynamics of the game show phase transitions reminiscent of statistical physics."
First of all without even getting to 2nd base with the article it is not really PHYSICALLY possible to say that one has a "reminicence" of a 'phase transition" and have the TRANS anything kinematically be NOT a Part of Stat Phyiscs (if I am correct that Boltzmann NEVER had any idea of using infinite divisibility) provided I explain some thing in the history of science. Starting off a plauible assertion of any creationist this way is likely to have me bumped back to Kansas so rather lets say "dynamics" means "interactivity" and ask still if this still sounds like posting in c/e world whrils? I still think it does.
On ICR's discussion forum board, when it came time for me to acutally say something I was trying to promote the dash in the idea of eco-justice for which this article is not irrelevant to and so from that web site I could likewise have begun to try to intice the other plausible players to promote the continuance of disscuion for any given individual "abduction" in the process but alas I seem to have even out grown this kind of communication.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE RESULT OF c/e INDUCTION is to be able to "switch" to the "best reply dynamics" and that would be true if I, BSM , thought that c/e analogical to game theory. I never did. I allways felt the polerization was a formal debating position (moot) and no more and unfortunately that I have spent the past few years trying to "game" my way through discussions to get people either to play (post) to some useful outcome whether one would recognize this in this article or not I feel I really have used up the kitty store of inductive transference and am moving on to a purely deductive mode. Anne's thinking that I was only speaking to myself pretty much made this to be this way for for the 1hour a day I spend to post in c/e mode is certainly NOT talking only to myself which I do much of the other 23 hours (whether this system is Babylonian or not...).
I really doubt that "repoducing" with cellular automata has much to do with biology UNLESS Medel's Laws appear there phenomenologically as well (as any Darwinism) but THAT idea is pure speculation NO MATTER HOW PLAUSIBLE our little home grown c/e Quilt has become. There is something to be said about "memory" of c/e talk and no doubt I do feel "priveldged" to have a thread named on me but as for others catching on to the same kind of induction I did and still do to some extent before I start only posting out deductions seems unlikely.
I am not sorry that I have moved on from trying to define a common abduction but I guess this is just the way it was (before computer assisted science outsourced any informatic approach to a mental notion between the physicality of science and the microminuturization per information connection existed).
But if you meant me to pick something simple like what I am working on at HOME; that Garteh Nelson of AMNH may have been off the network to assert that Croizat's Tracks were simply uniformed area cladograms, then that at least for me would have been easier to say. (a simple denial would do (have done)).
Dont know if I succeeded with this.
Tranquility Base, in message 22 writes:
What could have been demonstrated without, let us say, a le sae par or two, is not without relevance or indeed precedence to the matter. As has been shown beyond doubt by Dirac, and is discussed even on the elementary school playground, we could never doubt that A PRIORI the siliconized society has made its contribution to c/e. Regardless, number theory, modulo so-called "induction evidence" has never clarified the role of epsilon in the differntiability of enzyme pathway state-curves.
During my sabatical in the Kremlin it occurred to me that Lord Kelvin may have been correct, at least in passing, when he commented on the extent of correlation between FEASABILTY vs, ipso facto baseball projectile dynamics. Nevertheless my duties restrained these investigations and instead I, whilst also entertaining considerations that Korean antiquities might not be a next stop, was prompted to participate in a collaboration with Kenwick. How polystrate decay entered into this is a subject for another time as my hour is up and Anne is calling.
Brad McFall, in message 29, writes:
quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
What could have been demonstrated without, let us say, a le sae par or two, is not without relevance or indeed precedence to the matter. As has been shown beyond doubt by Dirac,
Yes, yes there is undoubtly a picture standing of Dirac and Feynman but Wolfram in the diagram gives the wink to Fredkin and neither of which is my best guess on the continuity that is PRIOR to the transition where discontinuity with Wolfram or Feynman for and Dirac is involved IN THE MODEL. You and I do not know if some bacteria use quarks to change introns etc and such is better left to the flat land of c/e fiction/talk talking fiction rather than a-working within the contraints of some template for the matter of infinite comparisions; which has not achieved this grammetelogical turn of the lexos naturalistically despite the move to, an emprically a posterirori orgin(for) any DEVIATION from is (by science) a gravational curvature in the thought.
quote:

and is discussed even on the elementary school playground, we could never doubt that A PRIORI

iT SEEMS to me that use of any a priori philosophy is only needed in the random window from which the choice of a black or white grey level is first picked up on in the dynamics that would be modeled from any electron exvolved where there is a problem in discontinuity brought on and in not by nature but by the scientific tools used in the discovery process of seperation or sorting saying nothing of the literay tradition that enabled mankind to so kindly write back to one another a lone or at home alone.
quote:
the siliconized society has made its contribution to c/e. Regardless, number theory, modulo so-called "induction evidence" has never clarified the role of epsilon in the diffe
Tranquility Base, in message 31, writes:
But of course Kenwick never did state specifically that decay amplitudes contributed to polystraitism, not even in his Springer-V monographs. It was said FOR him by some of the others (including Ervakld who returned my telegrams on more than one occasion) in the Forsight camp that monopole retention aided RATHER THAN hindered mutational polymorphisms. But, in as much as Maddocks influenced the reviewers, the plebs will never know of course other than what has emerged from unofficial commentaries in literature available only in Latvian, a Baltic tongue that I never mastered despite intense efforts to immerse myself in northern Slavic cultures including their courting rituals adopted from neibouring Finnish tribes in the pre-1200s. Is it opportunistic from a game theory point of view that these polymorphisms have non-Abelian generators and does this relate to the recent prime factoring algorithms from ETH and Prague (which I visited PRIOR to the marches)? That workers, "chaperoned" or not by party authorities from the enigma branch, can extract finite renomalizations from such polymorphisms is emphatically due, whether via Reimann or not, to the physicality of the underlying ersatz and does not, except in the most implicitly contradictory sense or formalism (either), establish quantum singularities as existentially plausible forms of psudeo-Maxwellian distibutions. At the conference dinner he added that, although not grandstanded in the plenary, nor expounded in the preprint other than in a footnote, hidden variables do nevertheless enforce gauge symmetries at the genomic level. That was news for me and aided the goulash and cabbage.
Brad McFall, in message 32, writes:
OK, you win.
Tranquility Bass, in message 33, writes:
Tranquility collapses in shock.
Moose

  
onifre
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Message 29 of 33 (564325)
06-09-2010 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by ooh-child
06-08-2010 12:16 PM


Re: Who bought lyx beer?
Thank you Buz (and lyx) for the welcome - I've been a lurker for a long, long time. It took me a few years just to get up the nerve to register.
So even though I don't post much, I feel like I know quite a lot about this fine place.
Well then, stop being a puss and start debating. Lurking is cool, but once you open your mouth it's time to start backing it up...so I hope you do!
- Oni

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Blue Jay
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Message 30 of 33 (564335)
06-09-2010 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by onifre
06-09-2010 9:16 PM


Re: Who bought lyx beer?
Hi, Onifre.
onifre writes:
Well then, stop being a puss and start debating. Lurking is cool, but once you open your mouth it's time to start backing it up...so I hope you do!
Good thing we brought you along: otherwise, Ooh-Child might actually have broken a forum record by making it 10 posts without getting insulted.
Thanks for the save, man.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
Darwin loves you.

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