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Author Topic:   Professional Debate: Scientific Evidence for/against Evolution… “Any Takers?”
Taq
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Message 5 of 196 (564159)
06-08-2010 5:18 PM


#1) Neo-Darwinism is unequivocally true and scientifically verified fact - essentially proven by the evidence for all practical purposes
You aren't going to find a single PhD worth their weight who agrees with the above. Theories never turn into facts. Theories explain the facts and tie them together. Theories are never unequivocably true. They are tentative.
This also highlights the problem with this debate. Many do not even understand how science works, or how the scientific method is used. They think "theory" is a step below fact when in actuality theories are much more important than facts. Knowing WHY something happens is much more important than knowing WHAT happened. When Darwin proposed the theory of evolution it explained a lot of facts that had no explanation, such as the nested hierarchy observed in taxonomy since Linnaeus, biogeography (e.g. regional species, island endemism), and why species were adapted to their niche. With the birth of Neo-Darwinism from Darwin's theory we can now explain DNA homologies, fetal development, and a host of other important facts.
To quote Dobzhansky, nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution. It is impossible to tie together disparate facts without the theory of evolution. It is impossible to explain why everything with fur also has three middle ear bones. It is impossible to explain why there were no endemic placental mammals in Australia. It is impossible to explain why hox genes are so important in fetal development amongst all metazoans.
So the next time you start to ask someone if they think the theory of evolution is a fact take a second to reflect on that question.

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Message 84 of 196 (601097)
01-18-2011 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Eye-Squared-R
01-16-2011 4:35 PM


Re: Dr. Adequate’s Uncommitment
According to most polls of American beliefs, evolution is losing in the marketplace of ideas as demonstrated by the magnitude of unbelievers.
Projection. Evolution is not a religion looking for converts. It is a scientific theory that is applied by biologists in their research, and the theory has been extremely successful in this venue. The same can not be said for creationism or ID. No scientist is using creationism or ID as the basis for their scientific research while millions of biologists are using the theory of evolution.
This is why evolution is taught in science classes. It works. You must understand the theory if you hope to do research in the biological sciences. While a lot of Americans may reject the theory because of their religious beliefs this hasn't changed the theory's acceptance amongst professions where the theory actually matters.
Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

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Message 96 of 196 (609614)
03-21-2011 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by ICANT
03-21-2011 1:22 AM


Re: Debate
I love the idea of a real debate in a formal format but I am afraid you will not get these guys to commit to such a firm commitment because they don't have big enough of whatever that was that Dr. was talking about.
I will have a debate with you if you want. All that I ask is that any claim you make has to be backed by experiments and data from those experiments as they are found in the scientific peer reviewed journals. Are you in?

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