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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 31 of 55 (564851)
06-13-2010 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-12-2010 9:12 AM


3 > 3.5 (apparently)
I had a rating of 3.5, then someone gave me a 3, now my rating's gone up to 3.6!

If I keep getting 3's will it eventually go up to 5?


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Taz
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Message 32 of 55 (564870)
06-13-2010 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-13-2010 8:24 AM


I had a 3.8 before I joined this thread.
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Hyroglyphx
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Message 33 of 55 (564873)
06-13-2010 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Europa
06-11-2010 7:00 PM


Stop your sniveling
This member rating of 1 discourages me from participating in this forum. It is not the figure that is an issue, it is the rating itself that is an issue for me. I feel insulted and offended.

Develop thicker skin.

Why do you care about the rating system at all? I agree that it is pointless, but so is getting upset at receiving a low rating from vindictive people.

Do you really need something as vacuous as a rating system to feel good about yourself? If you do, the EvC rating is the least of your troubles.


"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." Blaise Pascal
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Hyroglyphx
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Message 34 of 55 (564874)
06-13-2010 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by DrJones*
06-11-2010 7:57 PM


May I suggest you grow a thicker skin, and also recognize that the member rating system means absolutely nothing.

Sanity prevails. DrJones just received a 5 for this simple, yet elegant post.


"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." Blaise Pascal
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Taz
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Message 35 of 55 (564879)
06-13-2010 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Hyroglyphx
06-13-2010 12:00 PM


And you just received a 1 for absolutely no reason.
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jaywill
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Message 36 of 55 (564893)
06-13-2010 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Hyroglyphx
06-13-2010 11:59 AM


Re: Stop your sniveling
I have over 2000 posts. I don't know what my rating is. I never paid attention to it.

This post is the first time I ever glanced over to the left to see the numbers under "rating".

Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.


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cavediver
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Message 37 of 55 (564895)
06-13-2010 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by jaywill
06-13-2010 4:13 PM


Re: Stop your sniveling
This post is the first time I ever glanced over to the right to see the numbers under "rating".

Does parity invert as you cross the Atlantic? Spooky!


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Hyroglyphx
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Message 38 of 55 (564922)
06-13-2010 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Taz
06-13-2010 12:57 PM


[qs]And you just received a 1 for absolutely no reason.[/.qs]

Yesssssss!


"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." Blaise Pascal
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Buzsaw
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Message 39 of 55 (564935)
06-13-2010 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Hyroglyphx
06-13-2010 5:36 PM


Clean Up Time
Hyroglyphx writes:

And you just received a 1 for absolutely no reason.

Yesssssss!

Aka Taz (Tazmanian Devil) decided to onezy every message so I did the Christian thing and went though and fivezied all of Taz's onezies to clean up the mess he made here of the rating system. I onezied all of his to even out his onezies with mine. Therefore Taz and me end up with onezies and the rest end up with threezies or so.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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DrJones*
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Message 40 of 55 (564944)
06-13-2010 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Hyroglyphx
06-13-2010 12:00 PM


Sanity prevails. DrJones just received a 5 for this simple, yet elegant post.

And thus the meaninglessness of the member rating system is further illustrated. When a 1 line post by me can recieve the same rating as one of RAZD's great posts from the Dates and Dating topics and also match the rating of one of Buz's posts that are so full of stupidity that they threaten to cause mental retardation in the reader it is clear that the system is useless.


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Buzsaw
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Message 41 of 55 (564981)
06-14-2010 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by DrJones*
06-13-2010 11:23 PM


DrJones writes:

And thus the meaninglessness of the member rating system is further illustrated. When a 1 line post by me can recieve the same rating as one of RAZD's great posts from the Dates and Dating topics and also match the rating of one of Buz's posts that are so full of stupidity that they threaten to cause mental retardation in the reader it is clear that the system is useless.

Jones, the system isn't meaningless. What is meaningless is when Taz gave everyone ones because Taz is Taz. Sometimes he's cute. Other times tazmanian devils need to be reigned in.

Twice I explained why I gave you and others a five-er; that it was to counter Taz's rampage antic.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Message 42 of 55 (564987)
06-14-2010 8:45 AM


More Information
When I change the rating system over to the Post of the Month option, the current system will still remain an option, but one we won't be using here. However, the current system will also undergo changes that take into account what I've learned while it has been in place. In fact, it is so I could learn its strengths and weaknesses that it has remained in place despite complaints. Some of the changes to the current system:

  • There will be a time horizon settable by board administration. Ratings older than the time horizon (3 months, 6 months, whatever) will be dropped from a member's rating, though they'll remain with the message ratings.

  • Indiscriminate message ratings will be detected (don't ask how quite yet, but I have some ideas) and the member's message rating permissions removed automatically by the software.

  • You'll be able to get a list of who rated a message and what rating they gave it.

When complaining about the current system keep in mind that discussion boards survive by making themselves into interesting places to be. In that light ratings systems can be one source of interest and even controversy that keeps people coming back (just for the record, here at EvC Forum I prefer to avoid using approaches that inherently generate controversy). This board was never as active (about twice as active as now) as when we had unlimited discussion of moderator actions, and much of that extra activity (about 50,000 posts per year) was moderation-related.


--Percy
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Taz
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Message 43 of 55 (565024)
06-14-2010 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Buzsaw
06-14-2010 7:50 AM


On a serious note, I think it's meaningless because intellectual and scientific truths aren't governed by democracy. Please shoot me when they are.

In essence, it's just a popularity contest. And since this forum is lopsided on one side of the debate, guess who's going to have a tough time with the popularity contest?


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DrJones*
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Message 44 of 55 (565055)
06-14-2010 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Buzsaw
06-14-2010 7:50 AM


Jones, the system isn't meaningless.

Sure it is, Taz arbitrarily gives out 1s and you arbitrarily counter those with 5's. His 1's aren't based on the content of the post and neither are your 5's.

Though I'm going on about the member rating system I do want to make it clear that I very much appreciate all the time and effort Percy puts into this place.


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry

Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Buzsaw
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Message 45 of 55 (565136)
06-14-2010 10:39 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by DrJones*
06-14-2010 2:03 PM


Abusing The System
Dr Jones writes:

Sure it is, Taz arbitrarily gives out 1s and you arbitrarily counter those with 5's. His 1's aren't based on the content of the post and neither are your 5's.
Though I'm going on about the member rating system I do want to make it clear that I very much appreciate all the time and effort Percy puts into this place.

That's not happening in all threads. Taz hijacked the system here for whatever reason. The only reason I went through and raised his ones to threes is because he indiscriminately tagged ones, regardless of content. If he was trying to make a point, he was selfishly doing it at the expense of others, disregarding the welfare of other members who's ratings were affected adversly. Some do care about their ratings and think that the system would work if the members do not abuse it.

Percy's improving it along the way. Perhaps there will come a time when it will be fine tuned to work very efficiently and difficult to mess up.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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