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Author Topic:   Potential Evidence for a Global Flood
Woodsy
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Message 34 of 320 (565192)
06-15-2010 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Coyote
06-14-2010 5:20 PM


Re: Back to the basics
Here is another bit of evidence for you to deny: A partial skeleton was found in a cave in Southern Alaska. mtDNA was extracted from a tooth. It was also dated to 10,300 years. The mtDNA turned out to be of the haplotype D4h3. Something like 46 living individuals stretching along the west coasts of North and South America have the same haplotype. If there was a global flood, in the intervening time those individuals would have the same haplotype as individuals in the Middle East and Mediterranean. They don't. There is continuity of this mtDNA type in the Americans during the time the global flood would have resulted in a discontinuity.
That is a very interesting piece of evidence. I agree that it is a show-stopper for a global flood in that time period.
If creationists cannot deal with this type of evidence, they cannot honestly continue to accept any global flood. (I suppose they will continue to do so. They will just be dishonest in doing so.)
I am curious: what is the longest human continuity you know of, including all types of physical evidence, such as those you have mentioned in these forums?

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Woodsy
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Message 38 of 320 (565333)
06-16-2010 7:06 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Coyote
06-15-2010 1:02 PM


Re: Back to the basics
Your genetic info is interesting. Those studies will bear watching as they develop, as you point out..
I wonder if there are any sites that show physical evidence of continuous occupation into the remote past. That is, hearths, middens etc.

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Woodsy
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Message 53 of 320 (565634)
06-18-2010 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by ICANT
06-18-2010 1:01 PM


Re: Back to the basics
So according to the Bible account the land mass was all in one place when the flood took place. The land mass was divided somewhere from 100 to 329 years after the flood.
With the land mass all in one place at the time of the flood and then being divided as it is today what would you expect to find in your search for a global flood?
Why bother with this?
If you cannot answer Coyote's observations about lack of global discontinuities in the time period of the flood, no other arguments of any kind are of any use to you.
Lack of evidence of discontinuities is a show-stopper! No amount of weaseling around with scripture will help you at all.

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Woodsy
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Message 111 of 320 (574504)
08-16-2010 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
08-16-2010 7:43 AM


Re: Genetic data
Why do you keep ignoring that if there was a Genesis flood, the planet would have been much different pre-flood, skewing your dating methodology?
How would it be different? How would it affect dating techniques ? How do you know these things? Please give detailed, verifiable answers.
If you cannot give convincing responses, what you are doing is equivalent to lying.

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