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Taz
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Message 8 of 404 (566293)
06-24-2010 2:58 AM


{Edited - Adminmoose's account seems to be compromised...}
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Message 35 of 404 (566635)
06-25-2010 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by onifre
06-25-2010 11:16 AM


Re: Why the 'n' word
onifre writes:
Christ she is so hot!
Um... isn't she a lesbian?

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Taz
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Message 39 of 404 (566658)
06-25-2010 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by onifre
06-25-2010 3:33 PM


Re: Why the 'n' word
Ok, I'm confusing her with someone else. There's another female comedian who is equally hot that looks sort of like her. Can't remember who she is, though. Saw her at one of those gay conferences.

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Taz
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Message 66 of 404 (566876)
06-28-2010 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by riVeRraT
06-28-2010 9:03 AM


Re: Everyone's racist once in a while...it's Hollywood, man!
riverrat writes:
I am probably racist when it comes to muslims, especially after 911...
Could you please stop talking? You started out denying you're a racist. Then you began sarcastically admitting you're a racist. Now, you're inadvertently confirming you're a racist. Part of being a racist is you can't tell the difference between different individuals, different groups, and different societies because they share a physical or geographical background.
I get embarrassed everytime I see someone inadvertently admit that they thought all East Asian people speak the same language. I have to explain to them that the difference between Chinese and Vietnamese is like the difference between English and Italian. Hell, even the Chinese themselves don't have just a single language. There are over 1000+ dialects in China. The word dialect is misleading, because they are actually totally different languages.
That's what you're doing. The more you talk, the more you inadvertently show your bigotry.
I'm a racist, too. I was raised that way. My father will deny up and down that he is racist, but every time he opens his mouth to talk about politics or whatever, you will definitely hear "the blacks are taking over" or "the latinos are taking over" somewhere in his speech. When pressed, he can't tell you what he dislikes about Obama policies. His excuse used to be "I heard he's a muslim..." Nowadays, he just regurgitates what Glen Beck says.
The first step towards any recovery is to truly be honest with yourself. Denying it won't do it. Sarcastically admitting it won't do it either.

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Taz
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Message 68 of 404 (566887)
06-28-2010 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Huntard
06-28-2010 12:32 PM


Re: Why the 'n' word
Huntard writes:
Ok, what I meant was why would black people get offended if I called them "niggers", or even "niggas" for that matter?
I call my wife a variaty of names from time to time, everything from "pussycat" to "sugar baby" to "cunt". Rest assured, if any other man calls her that in front of me, I will pound the living hell out of him... except for the various gay men in our lives.
Why is this concept so hard for you people to understand?

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Taz
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Message 75 of 404 (566948)
06-28-2010 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by New Cat's Eye
06-28-2010 12:55 PM


Re: Why the 'n' word
CS writes:
Its not so hard to understand the concept that it is a double standard... I think the question is more: Why the double standard?
It's not a double standard. There are certain privileges to being in a group of any kind. Your dad has the privilege to call you son, but any other person who uses that word to you would either mean they're much older than you or they're using it as a derogatory term.
I often jokingly say "make me a sandwich, woman" or "make me a sandwich, you whore" to my wife. And she'd respond with "make it yourself, you skank." This does not mean that you won't get a black eye if you ever call my wife a "whore".
Black people have made it abundantly clear that the rest of us do not have the privilege to call any of them a "nigger" or "nigga".
Wait.... what do you mean you people!?
I meant exactly that, you cracker.

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Taz
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Message 81 of 404 (566981)
06-29-2010 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by riVeRraT
06-28-2010 11:17 PM


Re: Why the 'n' word
riverrat writes:
Oh yea, they used to call me cracka, lol, or the great white hope, cause we played basketball all the time together.

If anything, the word cracka is not derogatory at all.
Ask yourself this question. If there is a scene where there are 2 persons in the picture. Person A is holding a whip whipping the back of person B whose crying begging for mercy while his back is bleeding from the whip, and you absolutely have to pick to be one of the 2 people in the picture, would you rather be person A or person B?
If anything, being called a cracka is an honor because you don't have to endure any pain. And don't even try to lie that you'd rather be person B, because nobody in his right mind would want to be whipped.
Added by edit.
You might be a special case, however...
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 84 of 404 (567057)
06-29-2010 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by caffeine
06-29-2010 5:37 AM


Re: Why the 'n' word
caffeine writes:
Equating someone with an oppressor of the past is in no possible sense an honour...
Not very politically correct, yes, but it's better than having to labor all day in the field while being treated worse than an animal.
We're still people. Conquerors like to boast and the conquered like to grumple.
I've been called a cracka once that I can remember of by a friend. I threw it back at him. But I guess that doesn't count because we were just joking around.

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Taz
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Message 92 of 404 (567205)
06-30-2010 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by New Cat's Eye
06-29-2010 2:59 PM


Re: Why the 'n' word
CS writes:
I think it is... there's one standard for them, and one standard for us.
Whatever you say, son.
They get to say it, and we don't.
Ok, pussycat.
Those are double standards too.
I agree, sugar baby love.
I've been called nigga by a black guy and have called a black guy nigga, with no problems whatsoever.
I'm glad to hear, cup cake.
Hell, there's even white gangster wannabes that get to use the word nigga. Its not as cut-n-dry as you're making it.
Perhaps it's not, sweetie pie.
And it seems the "rules" of usage are just made up on the fly as whoever is around sees fit.
What lovely, lovely words, baby doll.

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Taz
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Message 118 of 404 (567735)
07-02-2010 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by caffeine
06-30-2010 3:48 AM


Re: Why the 'n' word
caffeine writes:
Yes but, to repeat, being called a nigger or a cracker doesn't actually turn you into a 19th century slave or slave-driver. Neither of them have to labour in a field and neither of them gets to hold a whip.
And to repeat, I didn't say it would turn anyone into 19th century slave or master. But those titles/nicknames do have the power to symbolize someone.
Ever heard of the sayings "go get them, tiger" or "you go, cowboy"? Ever heard someone say "go get them, you plant"? It doesn't mean anyone is literally going to turn into a tiger or cowboy. But those titles/nicknames do have the power to symbolize those people.

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Taz
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Message 157 of 404 (569053)
07-20-2010 12:08 AM


Tea Party again, surprise surprise
Speaking of racism...
New York Daily News - New York Daily News
http://www.kansascity.com/...ial-comments-cause-rift-in.html
While it is true that they are trying to do damage control as we speak, my question is why is the tea party attracting so many racist wackos out there? Is it because their core philosophy appeals to racists?

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Taz
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Message 160 of 404 (569057)
07-20-2010 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by Coyote
07-20-2010 12:24 AM


Re: Tea Party again, surprise surprise
Coyote writes:
So many? Out of many hundreds of thousands of people in Tea Parties, how many have been identified as "racists?"
As I have explained this many times already, racism went out of fashion long time ago. Today's racists will never identify themselves outright that they are racist.
I attended a lecture by the KKK a couple years ago in northern Illinois. Right away, someone raised his hand and asked the guy giving the lecture whether he was racist or not. The guy denied being racist. Get it? Even the KKK won't admit they are racist.
Just like homophobes will never identify themselves as homophobes. A few years ago, I attended a townhall meeting about gay marriage. This was back when Bush wanted that federal amendment banning gay marriage. A guy stood up and declared outright that "homosexuality causes teenage pregnancy". Of course when some people accused him as being a homophobe, he denied up and down that he was one.
You can't identify a racist by asking him if he's a racist or not. Of course he'll deny it.
But please, I'm not blind and deaf nor am I an idiot.
Tell me those signs at tea party rallies don't bother you at all. Tell me the accusations of Obama being a secret muslim agent don't bother you at all. Tell me those confederate flags don't bother you at all. Tell me the anti-Obama ignorant sentiments at those townhall meetings a year ago don't bother you at all.
If this really is about the budget and tax, we should have seen the formation of the tea party when Reagan was president when the deficit increased by 186% or when Bush was president when the deficit doubled. But instead, as soon as we got the first black president in history who happened to inherit the huge deficits from past republican presidents, all of the sudden we see the formation of a political party whose sole purpose is anti-Obama sentiment in the name of the budget and the deficits.
Again, I'm not blind and deaf nor am I an idiot.
And is it possible that the other side sent some of those as plants?
Should I put my tinfoil hat on now?
Added by edit.
Ok, may be the jury is still out on the idiot part.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Message 169 of 404 (569114)
07-20-2010 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by AZPaul3
07-20-2010 10:08 AM


Re: Tea Party again, surprise surprise
AZPaul3 writes:
There are still so many racists out there and the Tea Parties have indeed attracted quite a few, but, if the two of you are so naive as to think the liberal camp is immune to perpetrating such dirty tricks, just as the conservative camp does, then I have a couple of really nice, though pricey, tin hats I can sell you.
You are absolutely right. There are racists everywhere. I've already mentioned before that my elderly dad is racist. He just won't admit it. And I seem to show all the symptoms of being a racist as well. It's a part of me that I'm still trying to beat.
But I find it curious that when we rarely ever see racists in the liberal side making wide and loud proclamations and get away with it. When was the last time anyone saw someone from the liberal camp holding a sign comparing a black man to a monkey? When was the last time anyone saw someone from the liberal camp accusing a black polical candidate of being a secret muslim agent in order to discredit him? When was the last time anyone saw someone from the liberal camp wave the confederate flag into the faces of black people?
During the election campaign period, there were groups who showed up at the McCain rallies with racist signs and shouted racist comments. Some were ignored and some were asked to leave by McCain's supporters. I really thought that was the end of that.
And then we saw the formation of the tea party. And as soon as the first tea party rally happened, I saw all these same people all over again. They eventually understood that they weren't welcome in mainstream conservative base, so they all flock to the new conservative base.
And again, I recognize that there are racists everywhere. What bothers me about the tea party is these people are loud and proud. There has to be a reason why they feel they could be so loud and proud in this new tea party while they couldn't show the same face and attitude in the other political rallies.

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Taz
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Message 226 of 404 (569510)
07-22-2010 12:37 AM


Shirley Sherrod
I've been keeping track of this story since fox news and conservative activists decided to lie right through their teeth just a few days ago. We're talking about the ultimate quote mining. They posted a video of her speech taken completely out of context. The whole video revealed the opposite of what they said about her supposed racism.
Again, let me repeat myself. This is the 21st century. Racism has fallen out of fashion. Nobody, not even the kkk, will admit being racist. You have to look at their actions and interpret.
They lied right through their teeth on national television to condemn a noble social worker. And the scary part is their own bible forbids such an act.
And shame on the other side for acting blindly to conservative propaganda.

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Message 340 of 404 (572775)
08-07-2010 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 333 by Dr Adequate
08-06-2010 9:13 PM


Re: The Great Puppy Conspiracy
DrA writes:
I see. From your link:
I did not know this. I wanted to check on it because my kids found 2 puppies and wanted to let neighbors know with a small (1/5 page) flyer so someone will claim them. A lady told them this was illegal and now my kids are freaked out.
Someone should call the FBI and have them arrest the kids. And, if possible, the puppies, I bet they were in on it somehow. Both small children and puppydogs have big cute eyes ... you can't trust people like that.
I see. From your link:
I did not know this. I wanted to check on it because my kids found 2 puppies and wanted to let neighbors know with a small (1/5 page) flyer so someone will claim them. A lady told them this was illegal and now my kids are freaked out.
Someone should call the FBI and have them arrest the kids. And, if possible, the puppies, I bet they were in on it somehow. Both small children and puppydogs have big cute eyes ... you can't trust people like that.
That ain't nothing. For about a month, my wife and I couldn't understand why our credit card companies never received our payments. I had to do some verbal gymnastics to get them to take out the late charges. And then one day one of our neighbors came and gave us a whole box of mail. Apparently, her 2 little girls thought it was funny to hide our mail.
I swear...

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