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caffeine
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Message 83 of 404 (566990)
06-29-2010 5:37 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Taz
06-29-2010 12:22 AM


Re: Why the 'n' word
If anything, the word cracka is not derogatory at all.
Ask yourself this question. If there is a scene where there are 2 persons in the picture. Person A is holding a whip whipping the back of person B whose crying begging for mercy while his back is bleeding from the whip, and you absolutely have to pick to be one of the 2 people in the picture, would you rather be person A or person B?
If anything, being called a cracka is an honor because you don't have to endure any pain. And don't even try to lie that you'd rather be person B, because nobody in his right mind would want to be whipped.
Well this is just absurd beyond the point of all reason. Neither has to endure any pain, because we're talking about throwing around insults, not being thrust back in time to choose between two roles in a historical scenario. Equating someone with an oppressor of the past is in no possible sense an honour - the fact that this oppressor didn't get whipped notwithstanding.

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Message 94 of 404 (567213)
06-30-2010 3:48 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Taz
06-29-2010 1:01 PM


Re: Why the 'n' word
Not very politically correct, yes, but it's better than having to labor all day in the field while being treated worse than an animal.
Yes but, to repeat, being called a nigger or a cracker doesn't actually turn you into a 19th century slave or slave-driver. Neither of them have to labour in a field and neither of them gets to hold a whip.

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Message 116 of 404 (567661)
07-02-2010 5:29 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by onifre
07-01-2010 10:32 AM


Re: KRS One on the word nigga -vs- nigg(er)
You're not from their culture, their race, their streets, you don't know their struggle, what they have to fight against, rise up from, deal with on a daily basis... You may not like to hear it, but you don't understand it enough to judge it that way.
It's meant for a reason, a "don't forget where you and your people came from and struggled to acheive" thing to say, to remind those who think they've been accepted and have turned their back on their culture, streets and people.
That's how it was explained to me...
That sounds exactly like I understood the use of the phrase, and is exactly why I find it so stupid and offensive. The expectation that somebody has to behave in a particular way or somehow owes something to 'their people' or 'their culture', based on skin colour or some aspect of their cultural upbringing, is nonsense, and seems to me a way of encouraging racial divisions. 'No, you cannot just think of yourself as a person and get on with things. You must always remember that you are a black person, must identify with other totally unconnected black people and their struggles, and must consider the history of this particular subset of dead people your history.'

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