Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,425 Year: 3,682/9,624 Month: 553/974 Week: 166/276 Day: 6/34 Hour: 2/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Dunning-Kruger Effect
caffeine
Member (Idle past 1046 days)
Posts: 1800
From: Prague, Czech Republic
Joined: 10-22-2008


Message 5 of 13 (568604)
07-07-2010 5:36 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by nwr
06-26-2010 11:14 AM


* A students know that they are A or B students;
* B students know that they are B students;
* the top C students know that they are C students;
* the bottom C students and the D students "know" that they are A students.
This didn't sit right with me when I first read it, based on personal experience. In the school system I went through, people got segregated into ability groups and, as far as I could recall, those placed in the bottom group usually agreed that they were the worst performers at this subject. Maybe I thought this had something to do with the psychological effect being classified as 'the bottom group', and couldn't think of much intelligent to say, so didn't.
But I just came across a blog post on Citation Needed today, which points out that Dunning and Kruger's experiments are often misinterpreted. The relevant bit is in this graph from the original paper:
The worst performers still tended to consider themselves the worst performers, they just grossly underestimated how much worse they were. Your point above would be better if it finished "the bottom C students and the D students "know" that they are top C students, as do those who have no hope of getting a D."
Edited by caffeine, : To add link - thank RAZD

This message is a reply to:
 Message 2 by nwr, posted 06-26-2010 11:14 AM nwr has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 6 by RAZD, posted 07-07-2010 7:35 AM caffeine has not replied
 Message 7 by nwr, posted 07-07-2010 7:50 AM caffeine has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024