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Author Topic:   Did Mod cause the collapse of evcforum?
nwr
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Message 32 of 424 (566941)
06-28-2010 6:39 PM


The impossibility of a moderator's job
As a former admin, I'll add my two cents worth.
Firstly, an incident from my past. I was in a basketball team as a teenager. I remember one game I was in, where a player from the opposing team charged straight at me. I braced myself for the expected collision. The collision occurred. The referee called a foul. The foul that he called was against me, for "shouldering the other player."
That's pretty much the situation for a referee. He can only call a foul against what he can see. That I was being charged, and needed to protect myself against possible injury, was apparently not visible to the referee.
Now back to the problem of moderation.
At times debater A will say things that are not directly insults, but that debater B will take as insulting and offensive. If this is repeated enough, then debater B will get a little testy and perhaps respond with an insult.
Even if a moderator sees precisely what is going on, and sees that the actions of debater A are what instigated the incident, the moderator still has little choice. He can ask debater A to avoid provoking debater B. But since only debater B has actually broken the rules, only debater B can actually be suspended for the incident. This may look grossly unfair to debater B. The moderator might even recognize that it will appear grossly unfair. But the moderator's hands are tied by the fact that he is limited to enforcing the rules and debater A has managed to stay within those rules.

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nwr
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Message 112 of 424 (567130)
06-29-2010 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by crashfrog
06-29-2010 5:26 PM


crashfrog writes:
NJ writes:
I don't make comparisons between homosexuals and animals. What I do is show why if you should morally support one, why don't you morally support the other by the same premise?
NJ writes:
I have reviewed my posts to see where your continued misconstrual of my words comes from. I can't see it. So I suspect the real issue is that you are either delusional or that what I'm saying is sinking in. I think the latter explanation will suffice.
Oh, right. "Berb, the only reason you're offended by me calling you a rapist horse-fucker is because you suspect I'm right."
I think you are reading too much into that.
Nemesis Juggernaut was actually making a "slippery slope" argument - once you allow homosexual practices, sooner or later you will allow other more despicable practices. He (Nemesis Juggernaut) was not actually accusing berberry of anything.
Edited by nwr, : Cleaned up some of the formatting (content unchanged).

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nwr
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Message 183 of 424 (567259)
06-30-2010 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by Hyroglyphx
06-30-2010 9:08 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
Hyroglyphx writes:
It's the truth that I have NEVER compared homosexuals (whom I have no objections too whatsoever these days, I'm pleased to report) to pedophiles, incest, polygamy, zoophiles, yada, yada. The evidence is all documented, and it seems that I have been vindicated by people who didn't like my former self.
I never liked your former self. But I agree that you never compared homosexuals to other types. It seemed to me that you were respectful of people as individuals, but you were strongly against homsexuality. I did think you were a bit heavy handed, derailing several threads on the topic.
Hyroglyphx writes:
The part that really fucks with my head is that before I joined the forum I had what seems to be a genuine experience with God. To this day I can't say if it was real or if I had wanted it to be real.
It was just psychology.

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nwr
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Message 229 of 424 (567455)
07-01-2010 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by dronestar
07-01-2010 9:14 AM


Re: What is the conclusion (Part B)?
dronestar writes:
The next time a member relentlessly pursues (in different threads?) a point on a controversial topic in language that a member finds deeply offensive, what action do YOU think the moderator(s) SHOULD take, if any?
If no rules have been violated, I only see two choices for the moderators:
  1. do nothing;
  2. move the thread to the Free For All forum.

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