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Author Topic:   When does design become intelligent? (AS OF 8/2/10 - CLOSING COMMENTS ONLY)
bluescat48
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Message 263 of 702 (570066)
07-25-2010 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by ICdesign
07-25-2010 9:56 AM


Re: following the vein of logic...
How did the skeletal system end up being constructed with such intended purpose?
The point is that it was not constructed for any purpose. It was not constructed at all.
Why would natural selection/ random mutation choose to build the skull with the perfect size and shape to house the brain?
Try the fact that the brain fits do to its evolution. It fits the skull because the skull is at its size.
Evolution is not directional, what works stays what doesn't , doesn't. that is Natural selection and what survival of the fittest actually means, best genes not the strongest individual.
Edited by bluescat48, : typo

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 296 of 702 (570269)
07-26-2010 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by ICdesign
07-26-2010 7:11 PM


Show the design please
We have blatant design all over the place but according to you it only appears to be design.
Yes plenty of design, all human designed. Where is the evidence that any not human made item is designed, other than appearance of design?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 308 of 702 (570331)
07-27-2010 2:47 AM
Reply to: Message 302 by ICdesign
07-27-2010 12:11 AM


Re: best of luck to you
Its as obvious as the eyes on your face that the eye sockets in the skull would not have evolved through any kind of natural selection and random mutation but rather had to be the result of a planned design.
So then obviously this would have had to be designed in the hagfish then again in the lampreys and then in the sharks & rays and then in the ray finned fish and then in the lungfish and then in the amphibians and then in the reptiles & birds and then again in the mammals. Seems like your designer is very inept or just plain stupid. The fact is the eyes evolved before the cranium. The chordate eye predates the hagfish.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 700 of 702 (572124)
08-03-2010 10:08 PM


Summation
When does design become intelligent?
1) To start with something has to be designed
2) An intelligent being must design it.
That precludes such things as the Andromeda Galaxy, The Planet Jupiter, Mount Everest, a Sequoia Tree, A human Being, An Amoeba, A spirochete, An Oxygen Atom or a neutrino.
That which is designed are all designed by humans, such things as
A Ferrari, A Moon Rocket, A PC, A digital camera or my daughters Thanksgiving Dinner (She has a degree in Culinary Arts).

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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