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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
DBlevins writes:
It's possible that some sort of Prime Directive explains the aliens' sneaking around instead of landing on the White House lawn and claiming the whole planet as their own, like us humans would do. Secondly, and much, much more probable is the fact that having that technology, they would have the technology to also gather what they required without adversely affecting other sentient races. Why experiment on us humans? The demons' Prime Directive, on the other hand, seems to be to interfere in every way possible. Maybe they're just different aliens with different political agendas. Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3802 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
The problem we run into, is the intersection of these three propositions. It seems easy to me for people to talk past each other just because of the very nature of the definitions, which also makes it easier for people to contradict themselves or be inconsistent.
I think most people understand the difference between an 'unidentified' object and ufo's/aliens and demons. While I can equate the belief that aliens visit us with the belief that demons do, and there are people who hold one or the other to be more valid, I also can hold as more likely that aliens might have visited us, just on the reasonable assumption that because I exist, 'others' can. You might disagree, but I think it would be a more fruitful road to first determine if other christians believe aliens=demons is a valid proposition, and then dig into why or how they could hold these positions.
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3802 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
I think I misunderstood what you were alluding to. I thought you were going under the assumption that aliens have not abducted anyone and it is just the psychosis of individuals that leads them to belive they have been abducted.
In that case then, I also would have to question the aliens motives, if what other people were saying was true. On the assumption that these alien abductions are not real, then I stand by my claim.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
DBlevins writes:
Well, the aliens' motives seem to be more complex than the demons'. We knew that the demons wanted to break our crockery and get into our pants. We're not sure what the aliens are up to. I thought you were going under the assumption that aliens have not abducted anyone and it is just the psychosis of individuals that leads them to belive they have been abducted.In that case then, I also would have to question the aliens motives, if what other people were saying was true. Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3802 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
Who's to say that aliens don't have that same desire to, as you say, get in our pants and break our crockery?
Maybe they're motives have been misinterpretted.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Maybe the conspiracy theorists have become more sophisticated. With the rise of modern communications, they're getting more practice.
Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
That's what you get for trying to exorcise Senior Wences! (S'awright.)
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
"jar" writes: There is evidence that UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) exist. There is no evidence God exists. There is evidence that God exists, subjective evidence, which at one point in time was objective. Of course there is evidence UFO's exist, but there is no evidence that aliens exist.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2322 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
riVeRraT writes:
Huh? How does objective evidence turn into subjective evidence? There is evidence that God exists, subjective evidence, which at one point in time was objective. Edited by Huntard, : Did quote wrong
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
In terms of 'science fiction' , I remember reading a novel by Ian Watson, called 'Miracle Visitors', that had a premise that aliens, fairies and demons were all projections from some sort of collective unconscious.
TTFN, WK
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
riVeRraT writes: There is evidence that God exists, subjective evidence, which at one point in time was objective. Exactly how does objective evidence turn into subjective evidence?
riVeRraT writes: Of course there is evidence UFO's exist, but there is no evidence that aliens exist. Good thing I never mentioned aliens then. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3802 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
Interesting. It sounds like he has tapped into the zeitgeist, this wierd conflux of belief in ufo's, aliens, and demons, and the search for that part of the brain which some hypothesize impells us to believe.
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3802 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
Of course there is evidence UFO's exist, but there is no evidence that aliens exist. I am curious what logical leap made you determine that ufo's exist but aliens don't? Seriously, I am curious.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2977 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
I am curious what logical leap made you determine that ufo's exist but aliens don't? I believe what RR means is, unidentified flying objects (UFO's) clearly exist. Any object that is in flight, and you can't identify it, fits that definition. Where as aliens (not mexicans but beings from other planets) have never been evidenced. So, just because an unidentified flying object has been spotted, doesn't mean little green men from another galaxy are driving it. There is no evidence for space beings, therefore one should hold off on claiming they're in control of a flying object until evidence for them comes to the surface. - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2322 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
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