Hi Buz,
No Islam bonnet bee, Granny and no bigotry.
Right. So it must be something else that motivates you to talk piffle on the subject of Islam every time it's brought up.
Bigots rarely realise that they are bigots.
I study Islam's Quran and the doctrines of the Haddith and Sunnahs (regarded equally with the Quran) enough to know that the so called radical elements are simply the devout ones who religiously follow the tenets of their scriptures. These scriptures require that Islam rules the planet by the sword, so to speak.
They also require that Muslims live in peace with their neighbours, especially in non-Muslim states. They also require that Muslims do not kill. Of course Muslims are just as adept at ignoring their own scripture as Christians are.
Oh and just to say... most Muslims are devout. There is a much higher level of devotion and genuine belief amongst British Muslims than Christians. Unlike Christians, Muslims tend to actually
believe their holy book. Most manage to do so without going on a bloodthirsty rampage though.
I study Islam's Quran and the doctrines of the Haddith and Sunnahs (regarded equally with the Quran) enough to know that the so called radical elements are simply the devout ones who religiously follow the tennants of their scriptures. These scriptures require that Islam rules the planet by the sword, so to speak.
Dude, the subject up for discussion is banning Islamic dress. I'm sure that you are very confident in your prophesy ideas, but I would also hope that you realise why they cannot be taken into consideration in any argument for any new laws. Prophecy is not a legal argument.
Genocide and persecution via Islamic fundies is ongoing in African nations as well as totalitarian nations.
More irrelevant content. The subject is not "Do Muslim states suck?" but whether or not to ban Islamic dress. Y'know, in Europe or the US. We're not talking about what goes on in other countries.
While our nation sends scores of billions into Afganistan and while our troops are dying in that nation, it is a crime requiring the death penaly in that nation to convert from Islam to another religion or to proselatize another religion to a Muslim. - It's in the Afgan Constitution.
Again, this has nothing to do with banning burqas or any other form of Islamic dress. In fact, not a single point in your message has anything to do with banning Islamic dress. It's all just garden variety anti-Muslim scaremongering. As usual.
Since not one word of your message was relevant, I'll answer some of what you said to jar, most of which was much more on-topic.
Buzsaw writes:
Why do bank robbers wear masks? Why don't they wear large hats, carry back packs, wear overcoats or whatever other garb noted by you and other members in this thread in responding to my message?
How many cases can you name where European or US banks have been robbed by burqa-clad assailants?
You mention masks. Would you care to show us the thread where you called for George Bush masks to be banned? I mean, you did call for masks to be banned right? You're concerned about the face being covered, not the Islamic nature of the garb, right? So where was your call to ban Bush masks?
If you want to ban Islamic veils, but don't want to ban George Bush mask, you are being a hypocrite.
The answer to that is very simple. No security camera; no witness, no public transit driver, no airline personell and no law enforcement can identify them as criminals.
Right. That's why you've been calling for George Bush masks to be banned. Right?
For the record, I have no objection to veil-clad women being required to show their faces in certain situations. ID photos, in banks or other high-security sites, at customs, etc. That is perfectly reasonable. But that's all that need be done. Just require that (for example) bank customers remove face covering on entering. Simple. No need for any bans.
Nobody would even know the gender of such a criminal.
This is not entirely true. I think that I would be able to spot a man in a niqab. Perhaps not a burqa, but then, as I have repeatedly mentioned, NO-ONE IN THE WEST WEARS BURQAS!
Of course, a big dress, a hood and a George Bush mask would do the same job. Do you want to ban masks?
I wonder if a Christian sect's ministers...
The same laws should apply to Christians as to Muslims. Obviously. The law does not distinguish nor should it.
Would criminal elements like bank robbers then either join the sect or disguise as members so as to never be identified?
In my opinion, the very idea that anyone would convert to a religion merely to wear a disguise underlines quite how detached from reality you have become on this issue.
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