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Message 26 of 165 (358095)
10-22-2006 10:01 AM

Reply to: Message 20 by KBC1963
10-22-2006 9:12 AM

Since the foundation of evolution is "random" mutations that are subsequently selected based on fitness for an environment then it would eliminate a design inference because the randomness of mutation could never be controllled to cause a contiguous existence of functional formations.

Are you saying that trial and error experimentation is not a valid design methodology? Are you also ruling out Monte Carlo methods?

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Message 130 of 165 (358657)
10-24-2006 10:19 PM

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10-24-2006 10:07 PM

Do you have something that can find finite sets from an infinite set with the monte carlo method?

That's not a problem that evolution needs to solve.

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Message 134 of 165 (358661)
10-24-2006 10:42 PM

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10-24-2006 10:24 PM

Show me any complex interactive mechanical system that can function continuously without control.

What point are you making? Are you trying to argue that intelligently designed systems (such as mechanical systems) do not work as well as evolved systems?

If that's your point, I agree with it. But it would seem to be an argument against ID.

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