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Author Topic:   Why complex form requires an Intelligent Designer
anglagard
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Message 14 of 165 (358021)
10-21-2006 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by KBC1963
10-21-2006 6:36 PM


What on Earth?
KBC1963 writes:
Our environment cannot dictate form otherwise you could not get diversity.
What is this statement supposed to mean?
I would say that it would be a bit difficult for people to breathe on the bottom of the ocean, or for most fish to walk around in the desert.
Environment cannot dictate form?

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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 56 of 165 (358249)
10-23-2006 2:48 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by KBC1963
10-22-2006 7:22 PM


Poor Old Engineering
KBC1963 writes:
Not quite. I do not find evolution's proposed system incredulus. I find it impossible from a mechanical standpoint. Thus I don't argue from what I don't know or understand. I know system mechanics inside and out, I have 21 years as a mechanical engineer for experience. I know what it takes to create mechanically functional form.
I personally find this a very strange statement. I have already seen the argument that because the mind can think of all these possible shapes, the ToE is disproven because it does not use all possible shapes.
The past is the key to the present. It limits how much species can evolve in the short term, what can be done politically, what is currently possible economically, indeed even how much change the general populace can undergo in regard to philosophy and religion. Why do you think that what has gone before is not the key to what exists now in biology?
I have absolutely no idea how Newtonian physics can be seen to invalidate evolution, nor have I seen any evidence from you that the ToE is somehow in conflict with Newtonian physics-dependent mechanical engineering.
Engineers who claim to be authorities in fields in which they lack even the most rudimentary understanding are often the butt of jokes at Panda's Thumb. While engineering is a difficult field of endeavor at best, such a profession does not imply one has the ability to pronounce upon all other forms of knowledge as an expert.
To view the ToE solely in mechanical terms, while ignoring the chemistry, the biology, indeed even the history (aka paleontology), is to promote a narrowness of understanding unworthy of a properly broad education.
Of course, even the so-called mechanical disproof of evolution has yet to be seen. To the contrary, all we have seen is unfounded assertion.
BTW - I earned my degree in geological engineering back in 1982. It was my first of many

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