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Panda
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Message 379 of 527 (599287)
01-06-2011 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 377 by ICdesign
01-06-2011 10:47 AM


ICD writes:

To me its obvious that when you have several functions working together such as in the vision system, and the end result is being able to see, it is an intentional purpose. I guess I can never prove that so what is the point.


(This is not meant to be a facetious question...)
If I saw a man pointing a gun at woman; saw a flash from the gun muzzle; heard a loud bang and then saw the woman fall over clutching her chest - I would say it was obvious that he had shot her.

Did he shoot her?


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Panda
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Message 419 of 527 (599523)
01-08-2011 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 415 by ICdesign
01-08-2011 11:32 AM


ICdesign writes:

Evolution is full of nothing but double speak. It has no thought, no purpose. no intent, yet constructs all the sophisticated systems that make up life.


The ironic thing is that you will now equivocate (in a sense 'double speak') about what 'thought', 'purpose', 'intent', 'construct', 'sophisticated', 'system' and 'life' all mean - or rely on too broad a definition.

ICdesign writes:

The best I have ever seen any of you offer is some insignificant little bacteria mutation that shows nothing of how a sophisticated system can construct without intelligence.


Oh...that didn't take long, did it.
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Message 436 of 527 (599559)
01-08-2011 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 435 by ICdesign
01-08-2011 7:14 PM


ICdesign writes:

You cannot build one single thing without conscious intent.


Again, you knowingly use words that have multiple definitions.

Build: To develop or give form to according to a plan or process.
"You cannot build one single thing without conscious intent." is a circular tautological statement of no real worth.

Build: To form by combining materials or parts; construct.
"You cannot build one single thing without conscious intent." is an untrue statement.

Edited by Panda, : No reason given.


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Message 449 of 527 (599631)
01-09-2011 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 447 by ICdesign
01-09-2011 10:23 AM


ICdesign writes:

In the real world we see it takes conscious intent to design and build systems.


Another circular, tautological statement of little worth based on the unevidenced assertion that life is designed.

You are not making profound statements.
You are not providing evidence of anything.

You are saying the equivalent of "Round shapes are circular!", but that is not evidence that shapes are circular or round.
Your arguments are circular. Learn what that means.


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Message 459 of 527 (599659)
01-09-2011 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by ICdesign
01-09-2011 4:21 PM


ICdesign writes:

Does your heart have an intentional purpose?


Percy posted a detailed, considerate post.
I am wondering why you decided to ignore most of it, and simply cherry pick a couple of random points.

Did you not understand it?
Are you debating dishonestly?
Or were you unable to defend your position?

I am thinking that it is a combination of all three.


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Message 503 of 527 (599977)
01-11-2011 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 501 by ICdesign
01-11-2011 6:40 PM


ICdesign writes:

God did it.


Yes.
Allah made all life on earth.
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