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Jon
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Message 616 of 683 (668207)
07-18-2012 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 614 by AdminModulous
07-18-2012 9:56 AM


Re: frako
It would probably wise to note that you too have a tendency to make lots of short posts, some even one word long. Indeed, one of your recent posts managed the economy of just four characters (three of which were letters). You have of course received suspension when you managed to simply reply with a single word insult (Message 25). So if we're going to 'police' 'border-line spam' or 'clogging the forums' or a general low level of quality - you might find yourself hoist on your own petard.

I agree that I have not always posted things of the highest quality, but I think there is a difference between short posts requesting clarification and the typical nonsense frako posts (almost always misspelled and lacking meaningful punctuation). I don't mean to defend my point, but only to lay out the reasons for feeling the way I do.

And I am not trying to pick on anyone so much as point out that frako's behavior often earns creationists and the like suspension. As Phat mentioned, frako's posts are usually attacks on his opponents rather than on their position, which he accomplishes by implying that his opponent is stupid.

And frako was right; it was his post in the recent ark thread that finally convinced me to voice my opinion on the issuewhere he does exactly what Phat mentions. But you can see similar behavior here: frako's posts. (He was finally disciplined in that thread for posting videos in place of arguments.)

I simply feel that frako treats too many threads here like one big Humor topic where he can post whatever ridiculous thing comes to mind in whatever ridiculous format he chooses. And I don't think that posting in the Coffee House forums absolves any member of their responsibility to contribute something to the forums in exchange for access to the excellent information and learning opportunities this place provides.

Jon


Love your enemies!

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Message 617 of 683 (668210)
07-18-2012 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 616 by Jon
07-18-2012 10:54 AM


Re: frako
almost always misspelled and lacking meaningful punctuation

You do realize that not all posters here are native English speakers. I would like to see how well your spelling and punctuation would be if you were posting in Slovenian.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Jon
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Message 618 of 683 (668213)
07-18-2012 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 617 by Theodoric
07-18-2012 11:52 AM


Re: frako
It's not the honest mistakes that I'm talking about. It's the deliberate laziness and use of text speak when it is clear frako knows better. Look at a sentence he posted in this very thread:

"Now that you have the steel you haveto make sheets from it so you can coat the outer hull with them."

Followed immediately by:

"U cant use an anivl and a hammer ..."

So is it that frako doesn't know how to spell the English second person pronoun or is it that at his own whim he can't be bothered to put any effort whatsoever into his posts?

And if you think I am short on examples, think again:

Message 7

Message 25

And that's just the spelling and punctuation. If you want to see examples of frako treating serious threads like humor topics, I got those too:

Message 45

Message 16

Frako's participation on this forum breaks down into being little more than an endless series of text-speak pot-shots at creationism interspersed with extremely rare and seldom attempts at presenting serious arguments and providing meaningful contribution to this forum.

In as much as any spammer creates discussion problems, frako fits the bill, and that's why I've brought the issue to this thread.

Jon


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Message 619 of 683 (668234)
07-18-2012 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 618 by Jon
07-18-2012 12:22 PM


Re: frako
Also, he's on your lawn!
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Message 620 of 683 (668241)
07-18-2012 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 617 by Theodoric
07-18-2012 11:52 AM


Re: frako
I would like to see how well your spelling and punctuation would be if you were posting in Slovenian.

That's not a real language. It's mostly made up gibberish where Frako's from.

The best way to understand Frako's posts is to read them all in a Borat voice.

- Oni

Edited by onifre, : No reason given.


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Adminnemooseus
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Message 621 of 683 (668256)
07-19-2012 3:09 AM


Beware - Official Warning Message - Not a debate topic
Any more non-admin messages concerning Frako will earn suspensions. Possibly more than 24 hours.

Adminnemooseus


Or something like that.

  
Panda
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Message 622 of 683 (668408)
07-20-2012 7:02 PM


Spam
I think xjust is pretending to be Dave Mabus.

CRYSTALS!!

jar
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Message 623 of 683 (668603)
07-22-2012 10:37 PM


lower than whale snot spammer.
Clean up on all aisles. zigawen5 is a loser.
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Message 624 of 683 (668604)
07-22-2012 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 623 by jar
07-22-2012 10:37 PM


Re: lower than whale snot spammer.
I don't see anything.

Adminnemooseus


Or something like that.

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jar
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Message 625 of 683 (668605)
07-22-2012 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 624 by Adminnemooseus
07-22-2012 10:43 PM


Re: lower than whale snot spammer.
It was "I see nothing..."
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nwr
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Message 626 of 683 (668606)
07-22-2012 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 624 by Adminnemooseus
07-22-2012 10:43 PM


Re: lower than whale snot spammer.
I don't see anything.

Someone has kindly deleted them all.

There were 10 or so posts (I didn't count), but they were gone by the time I tried to look at one.


Jesus was a liberal hippie

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Bolder-dash
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Message 627 of 683 (668771)
07-24-2012 11:01 AM


Transparency?
Admin,

I see a message that I can't respond to a biological forum post. At least when you have blackballed me from commenting in forums, you should make it a public record and explain why, don't you think?

I means since you always brag about how fair it is here.


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Panda
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Message 628 of 683 (668778)
07-24-2012 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 627 by Bolder-dash
07-24-2012 11:01 AM


Re: Transparency?
Bolder-dash writes:

At least when you have blackballed me from commenting in forums, you should make it a public record and explain why, don't you think?


I agree - you should be publicly banned from all the forums.

Edited by Panda, : No reason given.


CRYSTALS!!

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Admin
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Message 629 of 683 (668786)
07-24-2012 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 627 by Bolder-dash
07-24-2012 11:01 AM


Re: Transparency?
See Message 305 and the message following it.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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AdminPD
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Message 630 of 683 (668789)
07-24-2012 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 628 by Panda
07-24-2012 12:14 PM


Re: Transparency?
Panda,

Your comment was inappropriate for this thread.

From the OP.

This thread is to report discussion problems and bring them to the attention of the Moderators.

This is not a discussion thread.

If you aren't reporting a problem or commenting concerning an Administrative message you received, you should not be posting in this thread.

Please refrain from inappropriate commentary in this thread.

Thanks
AdminPD


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