Message 46 of 121 (583441) 09-27-2010 8:59 AM

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Message 47 of 121 (583442) 09-27-2010 9:21 AM

- Sam "Lightnin'" Hopkins

Message 49 of 121 (583483) 09-27-2010 5:07 PM

Reply to: Message 48 by Artemis Entreri 09-27-2010 5:01 PM

"Nigga, please!" ~Cedric the Entertainer

- Oni

Message 50 of 121 (583489) 09-27-2010 5:45 PM

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

- State of Mississippi in its Declaration of Causes of Secession

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

- Alexander H. Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy

That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.

(Emphasis in original)

- State of Texas in its Declaration of Causes of Secession

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Message 51 of 121 (583493) 09-27-2010 6:05 PM

Reply to: Message 48 by Artemis Entreri 09-27-2010 5:01 PM

As I remember I think it may actually be a Jefferson Davis quote, or at least some have attributed it to him. I might just contact Washington And Lee University to see if it is an actual Lee quote. I have always been curious so I guess this is a good time to find out.

Message 53 of 121 (583620) 09-28-2010 9:41 AM

Reply to: Message 49 by onifre 09-27-2010 5:07 PM

"Respect" Ali G

lol that is a funny response, especially being from the same town as Cedric and being familiar of him, i found it extra funny.

Message 54 of 121 (583621) 09-28-2010 9:47 AM

Reply to: Message 51 by Theodoric 09-27-2010 6:05 PM

Artemis,
No source? I'd love to track this down if a real Lee quote. As a bit of a Civil War buff, I would love to see the context and who he said it to.

Message 56 of 121 (583624) 09-28-2010 9:56 AM

Reply to: Message 52 by Prototypical 09-28-2010 8:12 AM

- Bobby McFerrin

Edited by subbie, : Tyop

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Message 58 of 121 (583627) 09-28-2010 10:04 AM

Reply to: Message 54 by Theodoric 09-28-2010 9:47 AM

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; its just that they know so much that isn't so" President Ronald Reagan

Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

Message 59 of 121 (583632) 09-28-2010 10:13 AM

Reply to: Message 57 by Artemis Entreri 09-28-2010 10:03 AM

Ever hear of the Missouri Compromise?

Lee was fighting for his home and his culture which were both predicated on slavery.

Do you think the quote is a fair representation of reality?