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bluescat48
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Message 82 of 299 (593659)
11-28-2010 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by ICdesign
11-28-2010 10:59 AM


Re: More of the same BS
You make the statement about fulfilled prophesies, therefore it is up to you to back them up with evidence.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 91 of 299 (593679)
11-28-2010 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by ICdesign
11-28-2010 12:22 PM


Re: More of the same BS
Try backing them up with solid evidence and stop using the Bible to attempt to prove itself.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 167 of 299 (594222)
12-02-2010 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Dawn Bertot
12-02-2010 1:37 AM


Re: Catch 22
I can certainly win any debate on design
Not until you can show that design exists, not as compared to human designed articles , but as to the natural world. and not with bronze aged myths, as the book of Job.
Edited by bluescat48, : typs Ineed to repair the keys on thsi F#$kin'krybaraed

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 174 of 299 (594321)
12-03-2010 12:26 AM
Reply to: Message 167 by bluescat48
12-02-2010 5:28 PM


Re: Catch 22
To get back on topic of deconversion, I will use my previous post:
Not until you can show that design exists, not as compared to human designed articles , but as to the natural world. and not with bronze aged myths, as the book of Job.
It is these myths that led to my deconversion. Having been indoctrinated into these at the "totally mature age of 5," yes indoctrinated-- the first class stated with the comment "These are the absolute truths, you cannot question them." What 5 year old is going to buck that?
These absolute truths slowly, over the course of about 40 years, became absolute nonsense when coupled with reality. That is the deconversion, coming to grips with the reality that, these "truths," aren't.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 181 of 299 (594745)
12-05-2010 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by Dawn Bertot
12-04-2010 10:45 PM


Re: Catch 22
M, yourself, and others have abandoned you positions of faith or belief without thinking things through
25 years of studying is not thinking things through? I didn't start to question it until I was 20 and fighting in Vietnam. I was 45 when i adopted the position I now hold. Intense studying of the Bible, other texts on religion & Mythology and books on science. Yes deduction is necessary, but one has to have something to deduce. I can deduce an answer from the periodic law, or oxidation-reduction or radioactive decay through studying the concepts with what my question is. How can I do that with design when there is nothing to deduce design from when there is no theory of design. The word show is correct, no one is asking for proofs, since proofs are not found in science. Does the word falsification mean anything to you? Heliocentrism falsified geocentrism, oxidation reduction falsified phlogiston. One theory falsifying another. One cannot falsify a proof.
Edited by bluescat48, : typo

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 188 of 299 (594953)
12-05-2010 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by Dawn Bertot
12-05-2010 6:32 PM


Re: Catch 22
What you are missing BC is that these "scientists", teach and conclude evolution and macro-evolution as a part of thier science in the classroom. As such they are teaching conclusions that are not provable.
What they are teaching has physical evidence to back it up. The best answer for the data available is evolution. Just because you see the world through ID colored glasses doesn't mean it is unless there is evidence to back it up. The evidence that we have shows no need for any designer intelligent or not. Thats what the 25 years of studying showed me and thus the need for a deity or any other supernatural fuddy-duddy is nunesessary.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 207 of 299 (595146)
12-06-2010 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Dawn Bertot
12-06-2010 3:13 AM


Re: Catch 22
This is not the place to discuss the points of design, evolution or anything else except my deconversion. I simply stated why I left the fantasy world and entered the realistic world.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 269 of 299 (596094)
12-13-2010 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 267 by ICdesign
12-12-2010 10:50 PM


Re: jar? Purpledawn? Moose? GDR?
Standing against the perversion of homosexuality in the voting arena is not taking away the rights of a person who is gay nor is it about the person. A gay person has just as many rights as any other person.
What perversion? What rights? A homosexual can't serve openly in the US Military. 2 homosexuals cannot marry each other in 45 states.
What about these rights. There is no reason why these rights should be denied.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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