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Message 1021 of 1028 (844503)
12-01-2018 3:51 AM


PorknCheese
Can I suggest that Porkncheese's new proposed thread - Exposing the theory of evolution Part 2 - is not promoted until he has responded properly to the criticisms in his first thread - Exposing the theory of evolution Part 1?

It's looking more like a blog than a discussion.


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Message 1022 of 1028 (844505)
12-01-2018 4:56 AM
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12-01-2018 3:51 AM


Re: PorknCheese
Can I suggest that Porkncheese's new proposed thread - Exposing the theory of evolution Part 2 - is not promoted until he has responded properly to the criticisms in his first thread - Exposing the theory of evolution Part 1?

It's looking more like a blog than a discussion.

I thought this was his way of admitting that his first attempt had been comprehensively refuted, so it was time to try a new tack.


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Message 1023 of 1028 (844507)
12-01-2018 7:55 AM
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Re: PorknCheese
I thought this was his way of admitting that his first attempt had been comprehensively refuted, so it was time to try a new tack.

Possible, but more like he thinks ignoring the comments means he won, and wan't to move on ... with a new non-sequitur illustration not from modern evolution texts followed by "intelligent design" of the gaps ...

No, I vote that he at least make a summary of his position in the first part and how he has answered the evidence provided there, before moving on.

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Message 1024 of 1028 (844508)
12-01-2018 8:47 AM
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Re: PorknCheese
What I have decided to do is temporarily close his first topic and deal with the arguments in the ID Forum. I ask that all of you not try and overwhelm him or any viewer with your plethora of information, but, rather...take it slow and address the arguments being made by the ID proponents. You can start with the two researchers whom I referenced in my Admin reply to him. Make brief replies to specific arguments...don't attempt to teach a class. The ball is also in Pork n Cheeses corner to try and respond to your arguments perhaps by asking questions as he learns more about what ID is and how it differs from the science which you learned from in your professions.

A lot of times you guys engage in light banter with each other in these topics and throw the whole thing off course.

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  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
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  • The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

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    Message 1025 of 1028 (844509)
    12-01-2018 8:48 AM
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    12-01-2018 7:55 AM


    Re: PorknCheese
    Double Post

    Edited by Phat, : Double Post


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    Message 1026 of 1028 (844519)
    12-01-2018 11:15 AM
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    12-01-2018 8:47 AM


    Re: PorknCheese
    Phat writes:

    A lot of times you guys engage in light banter with each other in these topics and throw the whole thing off course.

    Light banter while we are waiting for Porkncheese to defend or explain what he posted is not what drove anything off course.

    There are more than 25 unanswered questions that Porky ignored in the first drive-by and now you're helping him drive-by again.

    This guy just wants to slime atheists and evolution, not engage in debate.

    Wanting creationists to participate on the forum so badly that you will let them shit all over the furniture is not worthy of "Understanding through discussion."


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    Message 1027 of 1028 (844525)
    12-01-2018 1:08 PM
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    Re: PorknCheese
    Would you prefer to have no creationist, Intelligent Design, or otherwise opponents at all to debate with? Faith certainly doesn't qualify---she knows her own beliefs, but has no evidence-based argument with which to respond. MikeTheWiz never comes around much anymore. I saw an opportunity to promote an Intelligent Design Topic and I ran with it. Keep in mind that a lot of people read these topics who we never see. My only expectation is for you, JonF, RAZD, Tangle, Caffeine, dWise1, and others to conduct yourselves professionally, politely, and briefly..addressing the argument at an entry level pace that the rest of we readers can understand. If pork n cheese never replies or is again rude, this will be his last topic. That's all I have to say regarding my actions.

  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
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    Message 1028 of 1028 (844751)
    12-04-2018 8:01 PM
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    12-01-2018 1:08 PM


    Re: PorknCheese
    Message 40

    Don't you think this has gone on long enough?


    What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

    One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

    If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

    The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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