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GDR
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Message 8 of 160 (594336)
12-03-2010 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bolder-dash
12-02-2010 11:32 PM


No.
I'm kinda swayed by the books on consciousness that I've read such as Quantum Enigma to think that the rest of the universe only exists as long as there is conscious life on Earth to perceive it, or something like that.
But who knows?

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GDR
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Message 11 of 160 (594343)
12-03-2010 2:11 AM
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12-03-2010 1:45 AM


Dr Adequate writes:
But if you can believe that, then why couldn't it be the case that the rest of the universe only exists as long as there is life on Alpha Centuri Gamma to perceive it? Why should we be ontologically privileged?
Well, if I'm right, (and I am aware that is a very big if), then Alpha Centuri Gamma only exists because life here perceives it. It wouldn't necessarily mean that there isn't other life, but if there is, then presumably they would perceive a different universe.
I know this is more than a little off the deep end but it could very well be that I'm just reading the wrong books.

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GDR
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Message 26 of 160 (594406)
12-03-2010 11:36 AM
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12-03-2010 2:42 AM


Dr Adequate writes:
I have yet to see the argument --- but it seems to me that any argument that implies an ontological uniqueness for my planet and my species could also with minor adjustments be turned into an argument for the ontological uniqueness of my race, my gender, my nationality or just for me personally. In fact, sight unseen, I am willing to wager a small sum that any such argument will make more sense if applied to me personally.
I've wondered about that myself and you may well be right. I mentioned it to my wife one day and she told me it made sense to her as I certainly live in my own universe. Don't know what she could have meant by that.
Edited by GDR, : No reason given.

Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

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