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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Bullshit. It's been tried many times from the small scale (Amana, Oneida) to the large scale (Soviet Union, Cuba, China). It does not work. The whine of, "But that's not really communism," is nothing more than the No True Scotsman fallacy. You forgot Yugoslavia where id did work sure there where some faults tough the standard of the people was something Americans can dream about, ok there was a "for life president/dictator" tough he got voted to be one and without him it would have fallen apart before it got started as it did after he died, our problem was that Yugoslavia was composed of 6 nations who hate each other, 3 religions who do not like each other. The same idea of unification failed a few times before Tito. We had SHS (Slovenians Croatians Serbs) then a new SHS (kingdom of Serbs Croatians, Slovenians) kingdom of Yugoslavia and only after that Yugoslavia after the death of Tito no new idea of unification came because after his death shit started to hit the fan we Slovenians went independent we prepared so the Serbs tried with ware for 10 days they lost 1 man all the others got captured, the Croatians where not that lucky lack of preparation and scheming to split Bosnia between the 2 of them, let the Serbs get a foothold so the ware lasted 4-5 years, during the ware the Muslims payed the heaviest toll genocide. Now there is too much bad blood to try anything we hate the Croatians for letting the Serbs trough (the idiots), and for the border that was never truly established there was only a temporary border. The Croats hate the Serbs for the ware and the Serbs cant afford to hate anyone cause their economy is in such deep shit. And there is one slightly big flaw in communism it has to be fully self sufficient, because of a lack of export all import ways heavily on the country. Or that the better welfare support awakens the greed and stupidity of some they found it was easier or better to do nothing and live of the welfare then to go to work.Not to mention the stupidity of some communist leaders, that have no idea what they are doing, for example the communist country under Cuba split a very large pieces of land to a whole bunch of farmers the idea sounded good at the time the only problem is that that land is only good to raise cattle, the inexperienced farmers raise all sorts of stuff on land pieces to small to support their own family so the whole country lacks food. A true system that would be for the good of the people would have to be some sort of a mix between capitalism, communism, and socialism. The money to run it would come from the capitalist side, the essential goods like food would come from the communist side (state run large farms), the health care, education,.. would come from the socialism side. Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
How can China, Cuba and the Soviet Union be communist if the state owns everything and controls everything? Dunno how it worked in those countries tough in Yugoslavia if you worked say in a factory technically the factory was state owned tough practically the factory belonged to the workers if the factory made a profit the profit was split at the end of the year between the workers. Sadly tough almost all communist regimes where totalitarian tough in the Yugoslavian case when Tito got voted to have a life long "ruler ship" it was asked does anyone object for him to be a lifelong "president" and only one hand came up and he said i think we should make it longer. Im not saying he was a pure good guy, im also not saying he was a bad guy. He did lots of good and some bad things. Like his quote for a prison on an island he said it is better to send one innocent in then to miss a guilty person. He did some stupid tings like he turned away from Stalin right before Trst was to be designated either to Yugoslavia(as a part of Slovenia) or Italy, im not saying it was a bad thing that he did, it was a good thing, he could have waited a few months tough. And he did some good things like he kept the whole nation together soon after his death it fell apart. The problem with most totalitarian regimes is that the leaders get blinded by power and do not care about their people anymore.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
The US has the best health care in the world. 1 France 37 United States of America 38 Slovenia 189 Central African Republic190 Myanmar
The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems, by Rank
Yes i know i am ashamed that my country s health care ranking has dropped below the US.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
When a majority of Americans support torture, you get torture, regardless of how liberal your president is. The Federal government is fundamentally structured to privilege conservative outcomes, such as torture of children.When a majority of Americans support torture, you get torture, regardless of how liberal your president is. The Federal government is fundamentally structured to privilege conservative outcomes, such as torture of children.
Well just goes to show that we do not have basic human rights, because rights are things no one can take from you we have basic human privileges that can be taken from us on a whim.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Since we are on the topic of torture i am surprised that the UN has not fined the US for these acts. If the us would acknowledge HAG, And the other court the "terrorists" that where tortured could sue the us for violating their basic rights (privileges). Tough if the us would acknowledge HAG a lot more war crimes of the US would be tried there.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Do you really believe Obama is winning the hearts and minds of these people by murdering their women and children? that is one of the reasons that most people i know that are not from the US label US as the terrorists. You always stick your nose in businesses that does not concern you. Like the milaterry drills on the border of north Korea. It is like you WANT to start a WW3. Personally if north Korea would have launched a NUKE and sunk all the ships on the border i would say they had the right to That border was never a TRUE border it was a border they agreed upon during the ceasefire and the 2 countries are still in ceasefire not peace and that border CANNOT be legitimate because NO COUNTRY CAN DRAW A BORDER LINE WHILE IT IS IN WARE AND CEASEFIRE IS STILL WARE WARE ONLY ENDS WITH A PEACE CONFERENCE WITCH NEVER HAPPENED. Luckily the north Koreans are not as stupid as they look and they did not act upon the aggressors the us and south Korea.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Massive war. F%&/ massive ware, north Korea has nukes not like Irak "had them". And all it would take is one nuclear spark to ignite the world and send us back to the dark ages. If the north would have sent a nuke to the US the US would retaliate the Chinese would get pissed and would fire back and if the Russians would feel like it they would join in for the fun of it. All because they wanted war games on a very questionable border of a very questionable dictator like it would kill them to have their games on the south side of South Korea. It is like kids where running your country.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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But have you forgotten that in that part of the world strength is respected, while weakness is scorned and challenged? 663,255,000,000 $ of military expenditure in 2009 puts America in first place for money spent on its military98,800,000,000 $ the second place goes to china notice one zero less Who is the nr 1 ware mongering terrorist nation of the world that spends as much money on its military then the rest of the world combined.
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