Religion and IQ

I actually did not believe that there is a correlation tough all of the studies i found show that religious persons have a lower IQ then non religious persons.The first thing i found was from http://hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htmTough this could be disputed because there are other causes that correlate like GDP.So i looked further and i found more interesting studies like And there is more on the subject on this site from where the quotes come
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http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/...Intelligence%20&%20religion.htmSo does this mean that we atheists had it all wrong and the religious are not being stubborn and deluded on purpose they just cannot grasp reality and evidence as easily as we can.

So any thoughts on this from the admins, anything at all ?

IQ is a measurement of different skills it has nothing to do with knowledge (well a small bit one need to know how to read, and in some cases calculate).I dunno if you have ever taken an iq test but while i was in school one was preformed before you entered primary school. (just in case some one with a very high iq or a very low IQ would not be neglected or misunderstood.) And one some where in the middle of primary school to see how we are doing. I dunno those tests tough as a joke i applied for Mensa and failed by 20 points lol still not bad.And IQ does not remain the same trough ones lifetime. If you think of the brain as a muscle the more you use it the stronger it gets and if you do not use it it gets weak.A better one to use would be Japan only 12% of them say religion is verry important and they have an average IQ of 105, While the US 60% of the people say that religion is verry important and you have an average IQ of 98/97Sadly i do not have a survey perticulary questioning a person in those regions about their beliefs and their IQ as a comparison. Sure there are exceptions to any norm Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Usualy IQ tests have no baring if you come from bangladesh or the US. things like this are in it and you have to anwser right by selecting one of the answers.The further you progress trough such a test the harder it gets and using the time it took you to solve it and the number of correct answers a psychologist then takes what not in to account and calculates your IQI see no reason why culture would have an impact, what would have an impact is the use of ones mind in the course of ones lifetime up to the test.

So you are saying religious people tend to be poorer and tend not to promote education to their children.And still what you have pointed out is not a cultural difference but a difference in standard countries with a lower GDP often tend to have a lower IQ average.Tough many studies that have been preformed in the past 100 years show that people who are more religius tend to have a lower IQ and do less well in school to. They get to go to "special" care classes to they do lose ground because those classes proceed slower then normal classes so the children can at least learn the basic my neighbor was such a case and he finished highshcool of economics after he finished the "special/slower" primary school. We think of it as a good thing because if those children where in the same class as those whiteout learning disabilities the "normal" ones would suffer th same goes for the high IQ or smart kids the first iq test is ment to identify them early one so that the teachers can help them achieve their full potential. Usually after class stuff sometimes skipping grades .... Actually they can be of use to find potential, tough as i said somewhere above IQ is not wholy given at birth if you do not use your brain it will get weak as your muscles get weak if you do not use them. One could use it also as an indicator of how much you actually use your brain.

Haha lol you cant compare ape minds with ours they evolved differently for example it is frustratingly hard to teach an ape how to count they dont get the just ad one tough their minds are way better then ours at remembering what was where. Example they thought an ape how to count and when the ape learned that they blacked out the randomized numbers on a screen after it pressed the first one astonishingly the ape pretty much did not care she pressed the numbers accordingly in no time while you and i would have a problem after the first 3 numbers.

hehe well usually one is rally different the others are slightly different.Tough the above is only pattern recognition simplesmall triangle larger triangle the largest triangle
small ball larger ball the largest ball
small square larger square ?????The same principle applys to the word, or letter puzzles all you have to do is find a pattern and predict the outcome from this pattern for the thing in question.Like say you have The anwser is TDC both above have the last 2 letters and the first so the 3d should be the same. Edited by frako, : No reason given.

NO NOO I was created in gods own image i am not......... wait thats right im an atheist and im an ape and proud to be one of the smartest animals on the planet.

No what i am saying is that dummer people tend to be more religius then smarter people there are exceptions to every norm tough the stats clearly show that there is a correlation.The only question is does religion make you dumb, or are you religius because you are dumb There are exceptions in some studies those with "little faith" did better then those with "no faith" and both did way better then those with "lots of faith". Edited by frako, : No reason given.

So what would then be the cause that atheists score better on iq tests, and do better in school, that less religius people do better on SATs.....I can see only 2 plausible causes that would explain this corelation1. "smarter" people tend to question the religious garbage more and more often become atheists.2. Religious people get dummied down by their garbage and lack of thinking.Personally i think it is a little of both. Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Though there is no evidence for this or at least i cannot find any study that would show this in china.So to me this statement is a wild guess, i can see the logic behind it tough i doubt "smarter" people would follow it.Why well we like to be sure of what we believe and religion is anything but sure in its facts. Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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Free-IQTest.net - IQ Testhaha lol i wish the one i took for Mensa showed i have an IQ of 127 Edited by frako, : No reason given.Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Every test or survey preformed from the 1920 supports the notion that less religious people are smarter. A test like yours and if it where true would debunk this notion and transformed it to smarter people tend to be outside the norm in cases of religion.I have a hypothesis and evidence to back it up, and a way to debunk it so go ahead take the first flight to china and conduct a survey there.

Huh???Ok let me put it this way how would you test if there is a difference of intelligence between those of high belief and those of low belief.