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Buzsaw
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Message 31 of 75 (601109)
01-18-2011 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Minnemooseus
01-18-2011 1:36 AM


Flawed Test.
This is not an objective analysis. It boxes all into one of four groups; fascist, neo liberalist, anarchist and communist. Those four are the extremes of each group.
I end up with Jose Zapatera, socialist prime minister of Spain, in the lower bottom left of the blue. I'm in no way a socialist. The problem is that there's no way one could get a capitalist, religious or conservative reading.

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Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

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onifre
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Message 32 of 75 (601110)
01-18-2011 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 6:51 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
Those four are the extremes of each group.
That's why they are all the way out at the end, not that the entire box itself represents each of those things.
If you were around Zapatero, then you are on the right with some, but not a lot of, authoritarian beliefs. That's you to a T.
So what if you are in company with Zapatero, that goes to show you that you may actually appreciate some of the values of socialism. Don't reject it, man, accept it.
The best part for me is that the far right is refered to as Neo-Liberalism. I remember saying that somewhere....
- Oni
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

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Buzsaw
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Message 33 of 75 (601113)
01-18-2011 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by onifre
01-18-2011 7:11 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
onifre writes:
Those four are the extremes of each group.
That's why they are all the way out at the end, not that the entire box itself represents each of those things.
If you were around Zapatero, then you are on the right with some, but not a lot of, authoritarian beliefs. That's you to a T.
So what if you are in company with Zapatero, that goes to show you that you may actually appreciate some of the values of socialism. Don't reject it, man, accept it.
I understand about the outer fringes, but there should be something to distinguish between socialist and just the opposite, e.g. capitalism. Perhaps the test has more to do with cultural values than to ideology.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

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onifre
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Message 34 of 75 (601132)
01-18-2011 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 7:29 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
Perhaps the test has more to do with cultural values than to ideology.
Spain IS a capitalist country. I don't want to shock you Buz, but you can be both, as many countries are.
So you may also share ideologies, too. In fact, the test is showing you that you have a lot more in common than you thought you did.
Yicks!
- Oni

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RAZD
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Message 35 of 75 (601134)
01-18-2011 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 6:51 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
Hi Buz,
Can you tell me what your scores were? I'd like to take all the scores here and compile them with the scores on the previous threads, just to see how the EvC crowd shapes up.
Enjoy.

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Buzsaw
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Message 36 of 75 (601138)
01-18-2011 10:16 PM
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01-18-2011 9:58 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
RAZD writes:
Hi Buz,
Can you tell me what your scores were? I'd like to take all the scores here and compile them with the scores on the previous threads, just to see how the EvC crowd shapes up.
I'll run through the test again. I didn't take down the scores.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

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Coyote
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Message 37 of 75 (601139)
01-18-2011 10:17 PM


My (missing) graph
I couldn't get my graph to show up here, but I was very close to ApostateAbe (see Message 18).

  
Buzsaw
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Message 38 of 75 (601149)
01-18-2011 10:52 PM


Buz Scores
Hi RAZD. Here are my scores.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.08
Mmm, when I pasted the image, my dot lowered a square and a half landing on the line.
(abe: I corrected by changing the reading numbers in the image link to the numbers which were tabulated after my test.)
Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

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NoNukes
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Message 39 of 75 (601155)
01-18-2011 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 10:52 PM


Re: Buz Scores
Buzsaw writes:
Mmm, when I pasted the image, my dot lowered a square and a half landing on the line
"Peek" shows that you posted a link to economic left/right = 2.62 and social libertarian/authoritarian = 0.00. The graph looks a correct plot of that.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 40 of 75 (601156)
01-18-2011 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 6:51 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
The problem is that there's no way one could get a capitalist, religious or conservative reading.
Have you tried being an idiot? That would work.

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xongsmith
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Message 41 of 75 (601164)
01-19-2011 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by RAZD
01-18-2011 9:58 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
RAZD:
Put me down for -6.0, -6.1.
I wanted more of a -8, -4, but the above is what I got....

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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subbie
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Message 42 of 75 (601171)
01-19-2011 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 6:51 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
I took it again trying to get a capitalist and religious conservative reading and come up with this:
The economic score was 8.88 and the social libertarian/authoritarian score was 8.05. Obviously it is possible to get a capitalist and religious conservative score if one holds the corresponding views. That you apparently don't is rather amusing.

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bluescat48
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Message 43 of 75 (601186)
01-19-2011 3:04 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 6:51 PM


Re: Flawed Test.
Mine comes out just about correct

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Wounded King
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Message 44 of 75 (601187)
01-19-2011 3:29 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
01-18-2011 10:52 PM


Re: Buz Scores
Hey Buz,
if you edit the link manually you can just plug in the right values, at the moment the link has 0 for your libertarian/authoritarian axes which corresponds to the image.
TTFN,
WK

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jar
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Message 45 of 75 (601219)
01-19-2011 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Wounded King
01-19-2011 3:29 AM


Re: Buz Scores
And if he edits the link creatively he can get any score he wants.
Now that is an example of Intelligent Design.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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