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Author Topic:   Moving towards an ID mechanism.
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 133 of 141 (267856)
12-11-2005 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by randman
11-21-2005 1:25 AM


Why have you assumed ID needs a mechanism ?
Evos don't even know what that means.
Evolutionists have no mechanism as NS is hindsight observation for the strong survive - no shit - extreme simpleton logic euphemistically called a mechanism/NS.
The origin of NS: Darwin concocted the idea after he read Malthus advocating govenmental help for the poor be abolished. Notice the "scientific origin" for this "scientific mechanism". I can provide exact source cites from respected Darwinian historians. Imagine that; NS originated from an argument denying the poor food stamps LOL !
In the mean time accept this link which candy coats my claim above:
Thomas Malthus
In Darwin's day NS was entirely rejected except by a few fanatics. Then in the 1930's when evos panicked and had to come up with a synthesis and mechanism they finally adopted Darwinian NS because they could not figure out how nature operated. We now know complexity is the m.o. of the IDer: complexity and nature are synonymous.
ID is observed = stark reality. You have swallowed a Darwinian straw man whole and have painted yourself into a corner.
ID has no mechanism. It is mechanisms that only God could have created like eyes and bat sonar.
Ray
The Emperor Has No Clothes - Naturalism and The Theory of Evolution
This message has been edited by Herepton, 12-11-2005 03:41 PM

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 138 of 141 (268409)
12-12-2005 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by randman
12-11-2005 10:38 PM


Re: ID mechanism
Ray, I haven't swallowed an evo straw man as I would believe and argue the same thing regardless if evolution was on the table. I believe QM crosses over into spiritual mechanics.
Refreshing, to say the least.
Ray

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