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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
I am not saying here, but in general. Yes a there are good fundis as there are good in all groupings of people except the good do not normally voice there intentions, whereas the bad are loud as hell.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Buzsaw writes: jar writes: US Fundamental Christianity, the kind that believes that Revelation is not about stuff that happened 1500+ years ago, that believes that Armageddon is going to happen and that a literal Second Coming is not just possible but desirable, is the single greatest threat humanity has ever faced. No force on earth poses a bigger threat today to humanity. This is a blatant blind christophobic assertion. How so are fundamentalist Christians who attest to the fundamentals of the New Testament a threat to humanity? Because they are very likely to bring about Armageddon. They/we read about Armageddon end time events in the scriptures; you know your Christian scriptures. Nothing in the scriptures relative to end time or Armageddon come about by any Christian violence, but by global nations. Christians are merely spectators watching world events leading up to what is described by the prophets.
jar writes: It is crazy folk that believe nonsense like the fantasy that is Revelation that really should scare all sane people. What is considered nonsense and crazy is debatable. Why should our watching as spectators and reporters scare anyone?
jar writes: And of course it is not a Christophopic assertion. It is a simple statement of fact. People that think Armageddon is inevitable are just plain crazy and should never be allowed into positions of power or authority. It's not crazy to take scriptures literal and watch current events play the prophecies out. It's foolish to deny reality happening and go merrily on life's way with one's proverbial head in the sand. Your problem, as usual, is that to admit to one supernatural thing would be to undermine your secularist mindset. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
bluescat48 writes: I am not saying here, but in general. Yes a there are good fundis as there are good in all groupings of people except the good do not normally voice there intentions, whereas the bad are loud as hell. True fundamentalist Christians are non-violent and harmless. True fundamentalist Muslims on the other hand, are violent and follow the actions of the writers of the Quran, the Haddith and the Sunnahs. The fundamentals in those writings advocate war/Jihad against infidels and world dominance by force. You have yet to cite any true Christian fundamentalist (I say fundamentalist/fundi) who advocates or practices violence. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2128 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Your problem, as usual, is that to admit to one supernatural thing would be to undermine your secularist mindset. Buz, your problem is that you can't permit any single fact to be accepted which would undermine your particular religious belief. You just can't do it. You have to deny overwhelming empirical evidence to believe as you do. But that's fine, you can rub blue mud in your navel on alternate Thursdays if that suits you. Just don't claim that your belief is supported by empirical evidence in the real world. (And let's leave off with this end of the world stuff, Armageddon tired of it. ;-) ) Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Did you say "Providentially, what our nation has done, militarily and otherwise is often beneficial to the preservation of Israel, the messianic coming kingdom of God."?
If so that is sick, disgusting and scary as hell. Anyone that believes in the preservation of Israel because of the messianic coming kingdom of God is a danger to the whole world and very likely should be considered insane. That hardly sounds like being a spectator. Not to mention the fact that you've never been able to support a single prophecy. Did you say "Your problem, as usual, is that to admit to one supernatural thing would be to undermine your secularist mindset"? If so then you are once again simply posting another falsehood and as usual, guilty of misrepresentation. Once again, I really have to wonder if you have ever even read the Bible. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
True fundamentalist Muslims are not violent, true fundamentalist pseudo-Muslims, like Bin Laden are terrorists. The same with the Christians., most of those who profess to be fundamentalist Christians are pseudo-Christians. Names such as Huckabee, Dobson, Beck, Limbaugh, Bachmann come to mind.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
bluescat48 writes: True fundamentalist Muslims are not violent, true fundamentalist pseudo-Muslims, like Bin Laden are terrorists. The same with the Christians., most of those who profess to be fundamentalist Christians are pseudo-Christians. Names such as Huckabee, Dobson, Beck, Limbaugh, Bachmann come to mind. Have you read any of the violent fundamentals of the Quran, the Haddith or the Sunnah's which have been cited on this board and all over the internet? Do you deny them, or what? True fundamentalist Muslims are the most devout ones who follow the fundamentals of their scriptures. How many times do I need to tell you that? On what basis do you deny it? On the other hand, true Christian fundamentalists are those who practice and teach the fundamentals of the New Testament. Mohammed and his apostles were terrorists. They both advocated terrorism and practiced it. That is what their books teach and how Islam and their god, Allah are to become the dominant world religion and power. That is why fundamentalist Muslim nations impose Shariah law upon their citizenry. That's why Bibles and propagation of any other religion are forbidden in these lands. Freedom rings in Christian oriented nations, on the other hand. Other religions are tolerated. Beck and others are also free to criticize other religions, unlike in Muslim fundi nations. Criticism does not equate to hate or violence. Who are you do judge the religions of the ones you named? Limbaugh, so far as I'm aware has never professed to even be a Christian. If so, he's certainly not a devout practicing one, though he does not practice hate or violence whatsoever. He criticizes and comments on religions, but is tolerant to those callers who disagree with him on his show. Please cite where any on your list have practiced hatred or violence. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
The scriptures of both religions articulate the fundamentals of each. The fundamentalists are the ones who ascribe to the fundamentals. Mohammed, his Quran and his apostles who wrote the Haddith and the Sunnahs, which articulate the fundamentals were all violent. Unlike Moses and his apprentice Joshua, who only gathered up desert rose petals to present to the folks they had disagreements with. Buz, there are none so blind as those who will not see.
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
Have you read any of the violent fundamentals of the Quran, the Haddith or the Sunnah's which have been cited on this board and all over the internet? Do you deny them, or what? True fundamentalist Muslims are the most devout ones who follow the fundamentals of their scriptures. How many times do I need to tell you that? On what basis do you deny it? Yes, we have read the alleged violent passages from the Qur'an and in almost every case it is just the classic tactic of Fundamentalists to take things out of context, misrepresent what is actually said and to just plain lie. But yes, Fundamentalist Muslims are also a threat, but just not of the same magnitude as Fundamentalist Christians.
Buzsaw writes: On the other hand, true Christian fundamentalists are those who practice and teach the fundamentals of the New Testament. Yes, and again totally misrepresent, take out of context and just plain lie about what is in the New Testament. Their belief in some inevitable Ragnark so clouds their ability to think that they are the real threat. They constantly create new identities for the imagined ENEMY, believe THEY are somehow going to be spectators while the rest of humanity gets destroyed, and by unthinking support of the messianic nonsense are likely to bring about a real Ragnark. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
I agree with what Jar posted in message 99
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
bluescat48 writes: I agree with what Jar posted in message 99 So do I..... - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Buzsaw writes:
Have you read any of the violent fundamentals of the Quran, the Haddith or the Sunnah's which have been cited on this board and all over the internet? Do you deny them, or what? True fundamentalist Muslims are the most devout ones who follow the fundamentals of their scriptures. How many times do I need to tell you that? On what basis do you deny it? Yes, we have read the alleged violent passages from the Qur'an and in almost every case it is just the classic tactic of Fundamentalists to take things out of context, misrepresent what is actually said and to just plain lie. Ok Jar, quote the violent passages from the Quran that you've read and explain to us sheeple how we misrepresent what is actually said and just plain a lie. So far you're doing your regular thing; blind assertions.
Jar writes: But yes, Fundamentalist Muslims are also a threat, but just not of the same magnitude as Fundamentalist Christians. So you admit that fundi Muslims are a threat, Now explain to us sheeple how we are a threat. I'll go real easy on you. You need to cite some examples of injury or death violence by Christian fundamentalists that are at least one quarter as prevalent as we are observing globally from the Muslims.
Buzsaw writes: On the other hand, true Christian fundamentalists are those who practice and teach the fundamentals of the New Testament. Yes, and again totally misrepresent, take out of context and just plain lie about what is in the New Testament. Their belief in some inevitable Ragnark so clouds their ability to think that they are the real threat. They constantly create new identities for the imagined ENEMY, believe THEY are somehow going to be spectators while the rest of humanity gets destroyed, and by unthinking support of the messianic nonsense are likely to bring about a real Ragnark. I'm still waiting for one example of violent actions that the NT advocates for Christians against anyone. So far your assertions are totally false. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
bluescat48 writes: I agree with what Jar posted in message 99 Then you should be able to help your ole bud out by answering the questions he has been unable to answer so far. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
xongsmith writes: bluescat48 writes: I agree with what Jar posted in message 99 So do I..... Ditto to you, Xongsmith. Let's see what you have to help Jar out.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I'm still waiting for one example of violent actions that the NT advocates for Christians against anyone. Matthew 10:34? - "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." The J-guy alledgedly said that, Buz.
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