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fearandloathing

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Message 45 of 440 (610330)
03-29-2011 6:51 AM

Reply to: Message 32 by Coyote
03-29-2011 12:18 AM

Re: Socialism?

Coyote writes:

Been watching Argentina lately? And the request by Chavez for people to cut back on calories? Argentina used to be a very productive country, now it serves as a lesson in socialist economy--for those who can learn from such lessons.

The president of Argentina is Cristina Kirchner, I guess you mean Venezuela?

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Message 58 of 440 (610500)
03-30-2011 1:06 PM

Reply to: Message 57 by Rahvin
03-30-2011 12:54 PM

Re: What is it Good For...?

Rahvin writes:

So far there has been only one example of how the Republican platform will help the middle class. By lowering taxes for the rich and doing away with social programs those of us in the middle class don't have to listen to the rich complain about taxes.

Are there any other benefits that can be cited?

Only if you completely change your own internal goals and priorities.

What I find particularly disappointing is how little the Democrat platform actually seeks to help the middle class. They're definitely better than the Republicans, don't get me wrong, but neither party seems to be overly interested by the fact the General Electric this year will pay a total tax of $0, or the fact that a removal of the cap on Social Security taxes would immediately make SS solvent for the foreseeable future, etc. Nobody wants to talk about cutting Defense spending so that we don;t have to let our own citizens die of starvation or from lack of medical care. It's all "raise taxes" and "cut programs," but almost always looking at the wrong taxes and the wrong programs.

I do not think either party represents me very well. I have often thought we need more options than these 2 parties offer, and not a tea party, those guys are morons.

Maybe it would be a good topic to discuss elsewhere.

"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Message 116 of 440 (610607)
03-31-2011 3:05 PM

Reply to: Message 111 by Rahvin
03-31-2011 2:41 PM

Re: Waaaaaaaaaa!

Rahvin writes:

Check out Phage's account subtext - it now says "inactive member." Looks like the poor widdle Randroid baby ran away because we called him on his bullshit.

I wanted to respond to him several times, but everyone else was doing soo much better than the things were popping into my mind. All I could think of was four letter words with a fine helping of moron, stupid elitist...ect...

I am self-employed, somewhat, and I cant afford insurance either. Health care is one of the main reasons I have parted with most of my republican shortcomings. I have done ok in years past and I am sad to say that I used to have similar feelings as phage, I was wrong. Now I struggle just to get by. I let a car get repossessed becuase I can no longer afford it. I am only a short step from needing a little help myself and can see the need for many social programs now more then ever.

I guess the republicans would have me sell my home and live off that money, then go to homeless shelter. I see no glimmer of hope for anyone in the middle class from anything the republicans offer.

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Message 124 of 440 (610621)
03-31-2011 4:04 PM

Her is a pointless comment.
I know I could never be a good republican becuase I felt worse for my helper when I told him my biggest contractor wouldn't be building no more new homes for a while, all we had left was to finish a few we had started. If he can find something else then he should. At least he could draw unemployment was all I could think. I felt like I was letting a man down who had been with me for 4 years.

"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson

fearandloathing

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Message 132 of 440 (610673)
03-31-2011 6:07 PM

Reply to: Message 131 by New Cat's Eye
03-31-2011 5:47 PM

Catholic Scientist writes:

I also described two different types of "the unemployed".

There will always be people who will take advantage of the system. Does that mean we should toss it out and leave the people who deserve it high and dry? Would you like to think that someone who deserved to get benefits, but didn't understand how to do the paperwork right was denied?

Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

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