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Rahvin Member Posts: 4039 Joined: Member Rating: 8.1 |
My mistake. My assertions are not that illegal immigrants are competing for the back-of-store jobs. You say that noone is competing for these jobs, reason being that nobody in the union who already has a position desires to switch to the available positions. Your assertion, unless I misunderstood, is that possibly-illegal but definitely-English-not-preferred workers are the cause of pressure to lower your wages. Please correct me if that is inaccurate.
The neighborhood I am in has 200 different cultures within a five square mile radius. It is one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the US. And yet English is the primary language that most folks know. We dont need to promote ethnic enclaves where immigrants dont have to assimilate. Hi, I live in literally the most culturally diverse city in the US according to the 2000 Census. This means not only do I get access to an amazing variety of cultural food (who knew that Ethiopian food was so damned delicious?!), but I also hear a lot of languages. You seem to have this misconception that American as a "melting pot" means that all of the different cultures that make us up must somehow be subsumed by some "dominant" (read: traditionally white, English-speaking, Protestant...) culture that you define as "true America." "Assimilation" does not need to mean that you stop speaking languages other than English, or that you stop following the traditions of the culture you came from. If all of the floor workers speak Spanish, and they're more comfortable speaking Spanish, who the fuck are you to tell them they can't? Assimilation means fitting in with the rest of the population, not subsuming and suppressing your cultural heritage and pretending like you're a WASP.
Besides....While having some workers who speak other languages useful, the union prevents them from displacing a veteran such as myself who is good at what he does and worth every dime he is paid. I'm sorry, that's just an odd statement. What does your being a veteran have anything to do with anything? I've worked with veterans, and it's typically not a factor in their employment except that their military service granted them training that is sometimes useful in the civilian world. Do you feel you deserve extra special consideration beyond your actual value defined by your skill at your job for having previously been in the military? Why? Do you really feel so threatened in your job by these other people? Why? You never answered my earlier questions. What makes you think these people are actually illegal immigrants, as opposed to people who simply prefer not to speak English? What rational chain of thought leads you to believe they are somehow threatening your job, or that the pressure to lower wages has something to do with them? Why do you feel the need to identify them as an "other?" Why are they different from any of your other coworkers? Wouldn't your employer find it just as easy to hire less-experienced but still-legal employees to do your job for less pay? Or perhaps simply fire some of you and make the rest of you work harder? Why do you specifically think that hiring possibly-illegal immigrants to replace employees in good standing is your employers preferred choice? My guess would be that your employer doesn't like working with the union, as the union contract limits their ability to lower your pay/benefits or fire workers in favor of cheaper labor. Is that true? If so, how are illegal immigrants any different at all from any other group of non-union workers that your union similarly protects against? Why blame the maybe-illegal immigrants when a random citizen off the street could be just as much a threat if your employer breaks the union?
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Gold has been racking up new all time high records these days. Silver follows, hitting over $40 an oz. Copper at $4.45 a lb, Lead at $1.30, the grains, crude oil, gasoline, food and just about all commodities way up.
These stats are ever increasing in momentum, indicative of the monetary tsunami that has been for-warned in the OP video. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: Gold has been racking up new all time high records these days. Silver follows, hitting over $40 an oz. Copper at $4.45 a lb, Lead at $1.30, the grains, crude oil, gasoline, food and just about all commodities way up. These stats are ever increasing in momentum, indicative of the monetary tsunami that has been for-warned in the OP video. HUH? Commodity prices are going up. Where is the tsunami? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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jar writes: Buzsaw writes: Gold has been racking up new all time high records these days. Silver follows, hitting over $40 an oz. Copper at $4.45 a lb, Lead at $1.30, the grains, crude oil, gasoline, food and just about all commodities way up. These stats are ever increasing in momentum, indicative of the monetary tsunami that has been for-warned in the OP video. HUH? Commodity prices are going up. Where is the tsunami? Once food prices quadruple due to gasoline tripling, the average consumer will be unable to handle the prices, and rebellion will begin.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
HUH?
What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline? Figures please. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: HUH? What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline? Figures please. The answer is 100% because 100% of both relate directly to the falling $$ and to the correlated rise in gold which has advanced the last seven sessions in a row to an all time high. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Buzsaw writes: jar writes: HUH? What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline? Figures please. The answer is 100% because 100% of both relate directly to the falling $$ and to the correlated rise in gold which has advanced the last seven sessions in a row to an all time high. HUH? How is the price of gasoline related to to the price of gold? AbE: It's good to know that all the packaging as well as the food itself is free. Edited by jar, : AbE; just for laughs. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4039 Joined: Member Rating: 8.1
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Hi Buz,
Where did you get your tinfoil hat? I'm wondering if one vendor is better than another. Do you prefer a single contiguous sheet of foil, or do you prefer hats made from multiple separate pieces? Is there a particular shape that's more effective at blocking the Obama-nation atheist Muslim communist mind control rays?
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4165 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Rahvin writes: Hi Buz, Where did you get your tinfoil hat? I'm wondering if one vendor is better than another. Do you prefer a single contiguous sheet of foil, or do you prefer hats made from multiple separate pieces? Is there a particular shape that's more effective at blocking the Obama-nation atheist Muslim communist mind control rays? Tin foil should be heavy duty type, you must fashion it with the F117 stealth fighter in mind. If not properly made it will let some of the mind control rays enter and then bounce around, in many cases this causes the person to become insane, believing in conspiracy theories offered up by the likes of Alex Jones. "I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
jar writes: HUH? What percentage of the cost of food is directly related to gasoline? Figures please. I cant find any hardline sources, but saw where a retailer estimated that 15% of the cost of food was related to transportation costs.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So when you said "Once food prices quadruple due to gasoline tripling, the average consumer will be unable to handle the prices, and rebellion will begin. " you were wrong?
There is no way that tripling gasoline prices will cause food prices to quadruple. Agreed? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
ok. I was taking poetic license...but anyway whats your point?
The belief is that things will simply get too expensive for the average person to handle. We wont have any money left to save for our futures. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: ok. I was taking poetic license...but anyway whats your point? The belief is that things will simply get too expensive for the average person to handle. We wont have any money left to save for our futures. My point is that your beliefs are not based on reality. AbE: Let's take the next step as well. You found that a source said 15% of a food products pricing is related to transportation. But how much of transportation is actually related to fuel prices? Remember there is also labor costs, communications costs, equipment costs involved, not just fuel. Edited by jar, : abe Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
crashfrog writes: Your average family spends maybe $600 on the family computer; ten years ago that was more like $2000. In 1970 it was around $30,000. Is that because of deflation, or because of advancements in the fabrication of electronics? You are throwing around bad numbers. Essentially no households spent 30K on a home computer in 1970. Families simply did not buy home computers in 1970. In the mid 70s computers cost around 1000 dollars. Ten years ago people spent approximately the same thing on a home computer that they spend now. They just get a better computer now. The computers I had in the early eighties were all well under 1000 dollars. They just stank (TRS-80, Coleco Adam, Sinclair Z81, Commodore 64).
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4039 Joined: Member Rating: 8.1 |
Essentially no households spent 30K on a home computer in 1970. Families simply did not buy home computers in 1970. In the mid 70s computers cost around 1000 dollars. Ten years ago people spent approximately the same thing on a home computer that they spend now. They just get a better computer now. The computers I had in the early eighties were all well under 1000 dollars. They just stank (TRS-80, Coleco Adam, Sinclair Z81, Commodore 64). As a person who worked selling computers around a decade ago...average PC purchase prices were above $1000. Most people would spend around $1500 on a new PC. Edited by Rahvin, : No reason given.
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