How New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others

You're missing my point, Dr Adequate. More power to anyone fortunate enough to be entitled to oil royalties. My point was the detrimental effect with those oil royalties (significant) coupled with government welfare payments upon the Native Americans. It did to them what it does to all things government subsidized. It produces more welfare and less personal responsibility for one's family's welfare. Not having to work, the people became idle drunkards, having nothing to do productively and having all kinds of time to carouse, drink, engage in criminal activities etc.That's why a small minority of the Native Americans who made good use of the perks from oil and government and who were industrious as well became very affluent; a few becoming very wealthy.Native Americans on reservations, even today, after becoming evangelized or after overcoming the tendency to be lazy, live the good life, benefiting from the perk advantages they have over young whitey ordinary citizen, struggling to get a start in life financially etc.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Untrue? Where's your evidence that it's untrue? Most of what you've contributed to this thread are these substance-less repetitive blind assertions.Jar, you remind me of the laughing hyena, following along the herds of wildebeest, nipping incessantly at their heals, hoping eventually to pounce on one one that slips. Edited by Buzsaw, : revise word

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

I don't suppose it has occurred to you that the reason people constantly ask you for evidence is because you never present any. No, why would you think that?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

The person making the claim that "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others" is the one who is required to provide positive evidence for that claim.I'm still waiting for you to explain why several waves of Americans have come to Catholic Canada to escape those "blessings".

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If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

Let me show you how things work Buz, I am always trying to help you.You said in Message 30

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Jar, you post short bare assertion after bare assertion. Get off my back.

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I replied in Message 38.

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Untrue Buz, I ask for evidence.

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And you never provide the evidence.

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How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"?

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Evidence Buz, where is the evidence?

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and even repeated the question?I'll try yet again.How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"?Evidence Buz, where is the evidence?Learn a little basic English Buz, asking questions are not assertions. Claiming that when I ask questions that I am making assertion is simply, yet again, untrue.Again ...How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"?Evidence Buz, where is the evidence?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I've explained and you are not reading objectively. My OP points were not pertaining to specific exceptions. They pertain to by large historically and globally. By and large, historically, the nation of Canada is one of the nations which has fared better than either Mexico and, perhaps (I say perhaps), even the RC majority province of Quebec. No? If not, please show your evidence.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Well, yeah, in comparison to Buzsaw, then yes. I tend to lean to the left on social issues, and to the right on fiscal issues. I would assume it was hyperbole for effect and/or humor. Sometimes people say "all" or "every" when they could not possible know that. It's just hyperbole and a mode of speech. I wouldn't get too upset about it. I'm just giving you my interpretation of what I read, and the possible psychology behind it. If an article appears too one-sided, then he runs the risk of alienating people. The bulk of the scorn in the article clearly was directed towards fundamentalists. If it was all directed towards them, they may assume that he's just some liberal blowhard and might immediately dismiss it. But if it appears to be an objective piece, they might be more likely to listen to what he has to say with an open-mind versus immediately dismissing him.

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"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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If that does not encompass you then it should be of no consequence to you.

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..... Okay....... Are you comparing baby-eating Jews to what was written in the article? Look, I gave you my interpretation. You seem to disagree. Fine. What more would you like me to do? It's a disagreement on interpretations, we aren't dealing with hard facts here.We will just have to agree to disagree.

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"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

This may be a dumb question but, what churches are considered fundamentalist? In my area there are lot of baptist, southern baptist, presbyterian, pentecostal. I have seen where some cite all of these as being fundamentalist??I am hoping someone can better define this then I have been able to so far.

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"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. ThompsonAd astra per aspera

Wiki is our friend

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"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

Yes I have looked there and I guess I am dumb becuase it still didn't answer my question. I guess I am missing something, are all protestant churches fundamentalist??I am not trying to be a smartass, I just want to know, maybe there is a better link or source of info that can enlighten me. Maybe someone can just tell me??Thanks

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"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. ThompsonAd astra per aspera

Fundamentalism is more of a personal belief than a denominational belief. Most would say that Lutherans are much less fundamentalist than Nazarenes, but you could find non-fundamentalists and fundamentalists in each congregation. Christian Fundamentalism is a non-denominational movement.

Thanks,This is also what I was thinking, but wasn't sure.I cant say for certain,but it seems that fundamental Christianity is a fairly modern term, 20th century. This being said, then some of the things that have been attributed to Fundy's isn't so. Is this a flawed line of thought??I do see christian protestant churches in my area doing many good things, I cant say if any of them consider themselves fundamentalist, and it doesn't support the topic either way I don't think.Thanks for helping me clear up my lack of understanding.

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"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. ThompsonAd astra per aspera

Since fundamentalism is a rejection of the modernization of christian theology in the 1800's and 1900's it would need to be a recent term. Yes and no. Modern christian fundamentalism is a movement to return to previous christian "values" found in earlier centuries. While society moves towards legalization of homosexual marriage there are many fundamentalists that would call for a return to laws that put homosexuals in jail (e.g., Oscar Wilde). They want the church to once again have the political influence it had prior to the modern era.

Also, Christianity during the Colonial Period was certainly not monolithic. Christians definitely feared other Christians far more than other religions. The problem faced was just that, the "Founding Fathers" and actually most educated people living in the colonies, knew that the major cause of war and death in Europe over the preceding couple hundred years was driven to a great extent by Christian Sectarianism, MY Church's Way or the Highway.They were going to make sure that none of the various sects held power, and in particular, the New England Puritans were feared by just about all.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!