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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: As you know perfectly well Buz, because you have discussed it before, "Jehovah" was a mistaken transliteration - from Hebrew to German - from long ago. The error persists in some translated Bibles only because the publishers prefer to keep the text the same rather than correcting it. Now I don't know if you persist in maintaining this error to insult the God of the Bible, because you worship your own invented Bible or because you just hate to accept that you could be wrong. Any or all of them are consistent with your behaviour on this forum.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1343 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
PaulK writes: As you know perfectly well Buz, because you have discussed it before, "Jehovah" was a mistaken transliteration - from Hebrew to German - from long ago. The error persists in some translated Bibles only because the publishers prefer to keep the text the same rather than correcting it. and because people like buzsaw refuse to give up tradition, even if that tradition is in error.
Now I don't know if you persist in maintaining this error to insult the God of the Bible, because you worship your own invented Bible or because you just hate to accept that you could be wrong. Any or all of them are consistent with your behaviour on this forum. zing. no, but seriously, if he persists, i'm just going to start calling him some mangled version of his name, with too many syllables and the wrong vowels. i'm sure he'll understand.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes:
The question remains: How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"? Evidence Buz, where is the evidence? 1. Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. History appears to support this. 2. Fundi Christians are evangelistic, converting many from agnosticism and atheism. Evangelism staves off atheism and agnosticism. History attests to the fact that, for the most part, citizens of secularist nations which have banned Bibles, persecuted fundi Christians and banned fundi evangelical churches have not been free or prosperous.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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jar writes:
The question remains: How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"? Evidence Buz, where is the evidence? 1. Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. History appears to support this. [/quote] Again, evidence Buz. How is that blessing Atheists, Roman Catholics and others?
Buzsaw writes: 2. Fundi Christians are evangelistic, converting many from agnosticism and atheism. Evangelism staves off atheism and agnosticism. History attests to the fact that, for the most part, citizens of secularist nations which have banned Bibles, persecuted fundi Christians and banned fundi evangelical churches have not been free or prosperous. Again, evidence Buz. For once, try to provide SOME evidence and stop just making unsupported assertions and sill nonsensical crap. The questions remain! How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"? Evidence Buz, where is the evidence? Why should the Fundi Christians not be considered the greatest threat the world faces particularly if as you claim "Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel."? Are you really so ignorant of the distinction between Israel a Nation and Israel a people? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
He seems to have blessed the Arab nations with a lot of oil. Apparently, He supports their policies. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
ringo writes: Buzsaw writes:
He seems to have blessed the Arab nations with a lot of oil. Apparently, He supports their policies. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. Void of the gospel of Jesus and the fundamentals of the NT, the people live in poverty and oppression. The oil does little for the welfare of the citizenry. Yet how many palatial mansions did Saddam Hussein have. Something like a dozen? According to the Abrahamic Covenant, they are cursed of Jehovah because they curse Israel. Thus Israel wins the wars regardless of the odds. Prophetically, a coalition of Arab, Russian, North Africa and Eastern Europe will eventually invade Israel at Armageddon, taking part of Jerusalem and ravishing women, etc. Jesus then appears to save a remnant for his kingdom. This is my understanding of Ezekiel 38 and 39 as well as some other prophets like Zechariah and Isaiah. Until then, Israel remains impenetrable nationally. There will be a treaty prophetically. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: ringo writes: Buzsaw writes:
He seems to have blessed the Arab nations with a lot of oil. Apparently, He supports their policies. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. Void of the gospel of Jesus and the fundamentals of the NT, the people live in poverty and oppression. The oil does little for the welfare of the citizenry. Yet how many palatial mansions did Saddam Hussein have. Something like a dozen? According to the Abrahamic Covenant, they are cursed of Jehovah because they curse Israel. Thus Israel wins the wars regardless of the odds. Prophetically, a coalition of Arab, Russian, North Africa and Eastern Europe will eventually invade Israel at Armageddon, taking part of Jerusalem and ravishing women, etc. Jesus then appears to save a remnant for his kingdom. This is my understanding of Ezekiel 38 and 39 as well as some other prophets like Zechariah and Isaiah. Until then, Israel remains impenetrable nationally. There will be a treaty prophetically. Again, evidence Buz. For once, try to provide SOME evidence and stop just making unsupported assertions and sill nonsensical crap. The questions remain! How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"? Evidence Buz, where is the evidence? Why should the Fundi Christians not be considered the greatest threat the world faces particularly if as you claim "Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel."? Are you really so ignorant of the distinction between Israel a Nation and Israel a people? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: quote: Again, evidence Buz. How is that blessing Atheists, Roman Catholics and others? Cause and Effect. The ones blessed happen to live in the nation being blessed of Jehovah because of the constituency in the nation supportive to Israel.
Jar writes: Why should the Fundi Christians not be considered the greatest threat the world faces particularly if as you claim "Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel."? Now it's time for you to show evidence how being messianic relative to Jesus at Jerusalem is the greatest treat to the world. They kill no one. They invade no nation They preach love and the gospel. They tell what governments and Jesus will do to effect that kingdom. That's it. Explain who that threatens and why. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
That's the same point I was making about the fugitive slaves but you continue to ignore it. They were so "blessed" by fundyism (or condemned to poverty and oppression, depending on your viewpoint) in the U.S. that they had to escape to Canada. ... the people live in poverty and oppression. If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: That's just more assertion, not evidence.
quote: I'll leave Jar to explain his own thinking, but I have some comments here. You can't simultaneously boast of supporting Israel in oppressing and driving out innocent Arabs and then proclaim your own goodness because you don't personally participate. And what about Iraq ? It seems to me that fundie Christians had rather a lot to do with that invasion. Edited by AdminPD, : Fixed quote box
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK writes: quote: That's just more assertion, not evidence. This is the Coffee House. A lot is asserted here by us all. I'm asserting that the cause and effect of our blessings are largly due to the fact that Jehovah exists and that his covenants are to be taken seriously.
quote: Paulk writes: I'll leave Jar to explain his own thinking, but I have some comments here. You can't simultaneously boast of supporting Israel in oppressing and driving out innocent Arabs and then proclaim your own goodness because you don't personally participate. And what about Iraq ? It seems to me that fundie Christians had rather a lot to do with that invasion. This fundie Christian never did sanction the occupation of Iraq. Governments and fundies are apples and oranges so far as responsibility.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: quote: Again, evidence Buz. How is that blessing Atheists, Roman Catholics and others? Cause and Effect. The ones blessed happen to live in the nation being blessed of Jehovah because of the constituency in the nation supportive to Israel. Again, you have no evidence Buz and even your assertion is just plain silly. How are "Atheists, Roman Catholics and others" blessed?
Buzsaw writes: Jar writes: Why should the Fundi Christians not be considered the greatest threat the world faces particularly if as you claim "Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel."? Now it's time for you to show evidence how being messianic relative to Jesus at Jerusalem is the greatest treat to the world. They kill no one. They invade no nation They preach love and the gospel. They tell what governments and Jesus will do to effect that kingdom. That's it. Explain who that threatens and why. You are the greatest danger the world faces because you believe in the Messianic myths, support Israel, elect crazy people to office, hope for Armageddon. You support Israel's terrorist activities, their occupation of foreign territories and their continued oppression of the Palestinians. You are a danger to the world because you view the world through your twisted interpretation of the Bible and Christs message. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Tram law Member (Idle past 4704 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: |
What is Christ's message and what is wrong with it?
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nwr Member Posts: 6408 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Buzsaw writes:
Our blessings are because the European settlers ruthlessly stole land from the native Americans, and murdered many of those native Americans.I'm asserting that the cause and effect of our blessings are largly due to the fact that Jehovah exists and that his covenants are to be taken seriously. I suppose you could say that was the 10 Commandments, as they are really practiced. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: So basically, all you have is a self-serving claim, without any evidence supporting it. You're not giving us a reason to refrain from our criticisms, you're just demonstrating - again - that our criticisms are justified.
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