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Topic: If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 100 of 231 (616432)
05-22-2011 1:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 93 by granpa
05-21-2011 12:11 AM
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Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
The story was first written in Hebrew, but whatever language it was first told is unknown, It could have been Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, if brought to Canaan by Abraham, or it could have been a Canaanite story or brought there by some other peoples. It could be a compilation of many stories from many sources, altered, refined, or had other stories injected to the original.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 102 of 231 (616449)
05-22-2011 9:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 101 by jar
05-22-2011 9:18 AM
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Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
I am not denying they were written in Hebrew, just that the word of mouth stories themselves probably weren't, since they would predate the Hebrew language, and most likely came from various sources.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
of course, the stories it is based on might That is what I was implying.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 107 of 231 (616472)
05-22-2011 5:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 106 by NoNukes
05-22-2011 2:32 PM
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Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
It doesn't even support a day 4 or day anything else. All that can be said is that when these stories were compiled, it said "whatever." It gets back to the fact that no one knows what the original story was or when it was first told or by whom. All one has, in the case of Gen:1, is the compilation, done somewhere in middle of the first millenium BCE.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
Even so, how do you know that the Babylonians didn't take these stories from the Akkadians or Sumerians or even from early Canaanites?
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4211 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Re: you're going to have to "Stuudy Genesis" even more than that.
they almost certainly did. the point is that the disconnect between genesis and its babylonian influences is so great that genesis 1 constitutes a new work, and not simply an adaptation or translation. genesis 1 was written late into the biblical period, in hebrew. the story did not exist in any culture before that point. I am not trying to deny that, and I agree with you.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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