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coffee_addict
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Message 1331 of 1485 (754081)
03-24-2015 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1327 by Jon
03-23-2015 6:10 PM


Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
Jon writes:
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Of course none of those things stopped Barack Obama from becoming President, so...
All the birther and other BS were never intended to stop or rid of Obama. They were intended to cover up all the obstructions of Obama's policies.
There is a very old principle in social studies that the Nazis took full advantage of. If you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it to be either partially true or fully true.
Cases in point.
The right keeps repeating the lie that taxes has gone up through the roof under Obama even though it's gone down. And most people believe this lie.
The right keeps repeating that Obama is not a christian (like it matters anyway). Result? A significant portion of the US population actually believes he's a muslim.
The right keeps repeating that Obama hasn't achieved anything, and most people believe this lie. The reality is he's done a remarkable job at achieving many things despite republican obstructionism. I think the biggest achievement so far by Obama is to keep us out of another decade long war in Iraq. Remember when the republicans were pissing and moaning demanding that we send in full ground forces again when ISIL made a big splash?
I can go on with a dozen different other things.
Most people are simply too willing to believe lies put out by the right. And because of this, a loony like Ted Cruz might actually have a chance (as much as I hate to admit it).

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coffee_addict
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From: Indianapolis, IN
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Message 1333 of 1485 (754088)
03-24-2015 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1332 by NoNukes
03-24-2015 11:23 AM


Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
I for one do not believe the birthers and what we would normally call the "fringe right" are as stupid as many people seem to think. I believe they were fully aware that Sarah Palin was a joke and McCain never had a chance. I also believe that they knew Obama's ascension to the throne as the anti-christ was inevitable. Sure, many of their underlings believed that McCain and Palin had a chance, but the people in charge knew it was inevitable that Obama would get elected and begin the reign of terror.
Instead of trying to win the election, they did the next best thing: trying to illegitimatize Obama's birthright. All the obstructionism that Obama has encountered the last 6-7 years were already planned out before he was even elected.
And they did a remarkable job at it, too. They got everything covered. Some people would like to see Obama weak, so they lied that Obama is too weak to deal with foreign leaders. Some people would like to see Obama as a strong tyrannical leader, so they lied that Obama gave the most executive orders in history.
It was all already planned out.

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coffee_addict
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From: Indianapolis, IN
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Message 1342 of 1485 (754163)
03-24-2015 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1340 by Faith
03-24-2015 6:25 PM


Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
Faith writes
quote:
Gosh, and here I thought it was a concern for the integrity of the Constitution.
Can you share with us what your thoughts on this are?

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coffee_addict
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Message 1358 of 1485 (754191)
03-24-2015 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1343 by Faith
03-24-2015 7:01 PM


Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
Faith writes:
quote:
Of course. The Constitution requires that a President be born in the USA and they thought there was good reason to believe that Obama was born in Kenya.
Ok, let's assume that you are right, that he was born in Kenya.
Why does this disqualify him from becoming the president? Or do you also dispute his mother was his real mother?

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