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Topic: The Awesome Republican Primary Thread
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IamJoseph
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Message 122 of 1485 (629918)
08-21-2011 6:12 AM
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Osama - oops I mean Obama, fooled America with YES WE CAN bytes. I wonder what slogan will apply in 2012 to further desecrate the oval office. I'd like to see a team up of Bachman and Bolton in the WH as America's restoration. The Dems will never again get up the next five decades.
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IamJoseph
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Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
I'll be first to admit how the Repubs stuffed up when Bush went to the Taliban hills instead of turning left to the terror HQs he called America's allies. This was a spewing event, and history shows the result of this grotesque event. But hey - the Libs would have been worse! We have Osama - oops I mean Obama, bowing at an acute angle before mafioso Nazi style regimes, chanting how allah akbar is the most beautiful sound he has ever heard.
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IamJoseph
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
If Afghanistan is seen as a victim the finger must point to the dictator regimes which produce Bin Laden dolls in its factories. These are illegimate rulers and should not be allowed to control people, land and resources.
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IamJoseph
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
New report says my POV has credibility: Bush should have turned left of Palestine as 9/11 response. Humanity is paying the price of America's so called allies and national interests, and no doubt the victims are turning in their graves:
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Iran and Saudi Arabia helped Al-Qaeda carry out 9/11 attacks, claims new bookBy Ted Thornhill Last updated at 12:09 PM on 20th August 2011 Comments (169) Add to My Stories Share As the 10th anniversary of 9/11 approaches, two authors who’ve analysed thousands of documents relating to the attack conclude that both Iran and Saudi Arabia helped Al-Qaeda carry it out. In the aftermath, both countries publicly stated that they’d fight terrorism and expressed their condolences, but The Eleventh Day, by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, produces a compelling argument that they were actually complicit in the attacks. The book also questions whether George W Bush deliberately withheld evidence linking foreign countries with the attack on the Twin Towers. 9/11: A new book asserts that Iran and Saudi Arabia were involved in the attacks, in which nearly 3,000 people lost their lives The official U.S investigation into the attacks — the 9/11 Commission — found no evidence that Iran was involved, but Summers and Swan beg to differ. They point to a court document called the Havlish memorandum, which was produced during a civil action brought against Iran by Fiona Havlish, the widow of an insurance consultant who worked in the World Trade Center and was killed when the planes struck. More...Michele Bachmann is keeping an eye on the Soviet Union... 20 years after it dissolved U.S. 'close' to signing deal to keep troops in Afghanistan until at least 2024 In seeking compensation from the state it drew on the testimony of several experts, including a French investigative magistrate, former CIA agents, an Israeli intelligence analyst and former 9/11 Commission staff members. Compelling: The Eleventh Day draws together evidence from thousands of documents It also includes evidence from three Iranian defectors. The memorandum states that Hizbollah, the paramilitary group supported by Iran, knew 9/11 was going to take place. It asserts that one of its key members, Iman Mughniyah, met with Osama Bin Laden and his No2, Ayman Al Zawahiri as long ago as 1993 and also travelled with members of the 9/11 hijackers on flights to and from Iran in 2000. It’s claimed he also went to Beirut with hijacker Ahmed Al Ghamdi and ‘visited Saudi Arabia to coordinate activities there’ and that two of the terrorists, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, were put up in the Iranian embassy during a visit to Malaysia. The document also states that Al-Qaeda operatives have received airline hijacking training in Iran. Evidence linking Saudi Arabia to 9/11 is even stronger, according to the authors. To begin with, they point out, 95 per cent of Saudi professionals polled about 9/11 stated that they agreed with Bin Laden’s cause. Bin Laden, who was born into a wealthy Saudi family, was publicly denounced by the government and had his citizenship removed, but Summers and Swan quote a former French intelligence officer, Alain Chouet, who says that this was ‘a subterfuge aimed at the gullible, designed to cover a continuing clandestine relationship’. They go on to claim, sourcing a U.S official, that two Saudi princes paid bin Laden ‘protection money’ - in return for Al-Qaeda not carrying out operations in Saudi Arabia, the authorities would turn a blind eye to his operations elsewhere. FBI counter-terrorism chief John O’Neill, speaking before 9/11, summed it up. He’s quoted in the book as saying that ‘all the answers, all the clues that would enable us to dismantle Osama bin Laden's organisation’ were in Saudi Arabia. Questions: Ten years after 9/11, the full picture about who was behind the attack is still not known Rejuvenated: Memorial fountains now stand in the footprints of the Twin Towers, while new skyscrapers are being constructed around them The authors unearthed more evidence in the form of a shady Saudi operative called Omar al-Bayoumi, who was alleged to have met two of the hijackers in Los Angeles. There’s also the fact, they say, that 13 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and that U.S investigators working on the 9/11 inquiry complained of Saudi officials continually blocking requests for information. And why, they ask, was a Saudi religious official staying at the same Marriott hotel as two of the hijackers the night before 9/11? The authors also place a huge question mark over George W Bush’s actions after 9/11. They say that 28 pages of the report of Congress’s Joint Inquiry into 9/11 were withheld from the public ‘on the personal orders of George W Bush’. An explanation for this, they say, came from the inquiry’s staff director, Eleanor Hill. She said: ‘It had to do with sources of foreign support for the hijackers.’ This information, they point out, is still being withheld. Read more: 9/11 conspiracy theories: 'Iran and Saudi Arabia helped Al-Qaeda' | Daily Mail Online
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 140 of 1485 (630159)
08-22-2011 8:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 139 by Panda 08-22-2011 7:59 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
OK, so you tell us why Saudi Arabia and Egypt were not in the loop of Bush's target zone post 9/11. I'm listening.
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 145 of 1485 (630169)
08-22-2011 8:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 141 by jar 08-22-2011 8:07 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
You mean, maybe there is no Islamic Brotherhood financed by the Saudi regime and Al Qaida is a far removed entity from 9/11? Is that your view?
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
How about getting back to The Awesome Republican Primary Thread? It seems some don't like bad questions. Even when a report which evidenced a claim is posted!
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 149 of 1485 (630173)
08-22-2011 8:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 142 by Panda 08-22-2011 8:14 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
Never mind the media - I posed about a novel by scholars. Who's not reading? The issue of bad US response per 9/11 has nthing to do with Repubs or Dems - its more an American policy error of its percieved allies and national interests. The post-9/11 history affirms this nicely.
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 151 of 1485 (630176)
08-22-2011 8:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 148 by jar 08-22-2011 8:35 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
America's problem won't be fixed by any party unless it is understood what the problem is. Both parties harbour the same sickness of not knowing her enemies. Otherwise rocket science says the regimes which fund the Brotherhood owes America trillions for 9/11 and those regimes, as well as those US politicians which acted blind should be in Gitmo. Otherwise a new VE VERE NOT AVARE syndrome hovers.
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 152 of 1485 (630177)
08-22-2011 8:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 150 by Panda 08-22-2011 8:40 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
I read the message of the novel. It has an eerie alignment with 1000s of events since 9/11 and occuring all over the globe. OVERHEAD: America is the great satan. POLL: 87% of Saudis agree with and condone 9/11. Yes, its an error for any American party to sleep on the job and halucinate about allies and national interest fantasies.
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IamJoseph
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
My selection of Candidates are not confused about who is not America's allies. How about you - or don't you like tough questions.
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 156 of 1485 (630182)
08-22-2011 8:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 141 by jar 08-22-2011 8:07 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
quote: Maybe because neither Nation had anything to do with 9-11. Of course neither did Iraq and Afghanistan but that's a given.
Its absolutely not a given. America's war with Sadaam was 100% legitimate and a crime it took so long to realize. The mafioso regimes established by Britain must be overcome for the protection of humanity - including of Muslims held hostage by their dictators. Waiting till they attack and mass murder millions, as they swear as their god given mandate - is a crime in itself.
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IamJoseph
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Message 158 of 1485 (630184)
08-22-2011 8:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 155 by jar 08-22-2011 8:52 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
Hm. US Christians chant its a blessing to kill the infidels. US Christians are perpetrating terror all over the world.
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IamJoseph
Member (Idle past 3659 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: 06-30-2007
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Message 159 of 1485 (630185)
08-22-2011 9:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 157 by Panda 08-22-2011 8:59 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
And if I prove you wrong - what applies?
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IamJoseph
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Message 162 of 1485 (630188)
08-22-2011 9:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 160 by AZPaul3 08-22-2011 9:05 PM
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Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
Well deflected. Tough questions are not in everyone's resume.
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