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Message 10 of 1485 (621767)
06-28-2011 8:41 PM


Every Democrat should register as a Republican and vote for Bachmann in the primaries for the simple reason of making the Daily Show and the Colbert Report that much better.
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Message 134 of 1485 (630133)
08-22-2011 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by hooah212002
08-21-2011 12:39 PM


No, I want specific policies the republicans have in mind and why EXACTLY I, as a lower middle-class American, should vote for them.
This is a question that I asked in my thread How Does Republican Platform Help Middle Class? I never did get an answer to that. What I got instead was "LOWER TAXES . . . for the rich" and "NO MORE EPA GUIDELINES . . . for huge corporations". I would really love to hear how Palin is going to help those lower middle class "Mamma Bears", and actually be specific instead of trotting out the old worn Republican one-liners.

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Message 136 of 1485 (630141)
08-22-2011 5:41 PM
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08-22-2011 5:05 PM


The fact is, IMO, they do NOTHING for anyone but the super rich. All they do for regular americans is provide talking points. I have encountered a couple people recently who, in talking about other things (we weren't discussing politics), mentioned essentially how "democrats are gunna take mah guns away". One was my building manager: an 80 year old man who I had no intention of discusisng politics with. The other was my dad's friend who said "there's too many democrats for me to carry my guns down the street".
You have to give the R's credit. They are able to hide an anti-middle class agenda behind hot button issues. I just wish more people would call them out on it, like . . . I don't know . . . middle class Republicans.
As a corollary to your experiences, I have a buddy who works in the oil fields in Alaska. He had quite a few co-workers that, once Obama was elected, dug a hole in their back yard, lined it with plastic, filled it with motor oil and all the guns they could do without for 4 years, and then buried the whole thing. They were completely convinced that Obama secret agents were going to go house to house and confiscate fire arms. I don't know if I should call these paranoid delusions or one of the best marketing campaigns in history.

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Message 182 of 1485 (630257)
08-23-2011 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by IamJoseph
08-22-2011 8:03 PM


Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
OK, so you tell us why Saudi Arabia and Egypt were not in the loop of Bush's target zone post 9/11.
How is war mongering and sabre rattling going to increase jobs here in the US, fix Social Security and Medicare, and help lower income families get access to health care?
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Message 189 of 1485 (630297)
08-23-2011 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by IamJoseph
08-23-2011 6:43 PM


Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
Surely this chant should be banned, equated with a heil Hitler salute. One cannot use such a phrase to identify with a god - and also to murder innocent people with screeming impudence.
Do you even know what Allahu Akbar even means? It means "God is the Greatest". You think people should be banned from shouting "God is the Greatest"? Is that something the Republican party supports?
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Message 193 of 1485 (630312)
08-23-2011 9:55 PM
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08-23-2011 8:35 PM


Re: Q: WHEN WILL US BEGIN TO RESPOND FOR 9/11?
I know what it does NOT mean. The ones screaming this chant in F Minor while slaying a family are not also great!
The phrase is used by all Muslims, extremists and pacifists. What you are calling for is an end to the freedom of religion. Nice to know where Republicans stand on that one. Always suspected, but it is now confirmed.
So what does this anti-Muslim rhetoric have to do with restoring jobs in the US, fixing Social Security and Medicare, and getting access to health care for lower income families? Care to enlighten?
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Message 224 of 1485 (633372)
09-13-2011 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by Theodoric
09-13-2011 6:41 PM


Re: Bachmann still Bat shit crazy
Does she even understand what mental retardation is?
Bill Maher was on Leno the other night, and he said (paraphrasing), "The best thing about Bachmann is that she is completely fact free." I couldn't agree more. If you are curious if something is right or wrong wait until Bachmann picks a side. That side is almost certain wrong.

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Message 228 of 1485 (633391)
09-13-2011 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by nwr
09-13-2011 7:21 PM


Re: Bachmann still Bat shit crazy
It is possible that she actually believes that nonsense.
Deep down, I can only hope that Bachmann is the Alli G of the Tea Party (or the Borat of Bumpkins, if you prefer). How funny would that be? What if she is really a died-in-the-wool liberal Poe-ing the entire Tea Party?
BTW, I think the same of Ann Coulter. Still holding out on that one.

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Message 328 of 1485 (640543)
11-10-2011 12:31 PM
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11-10-2011 10:17 AM


Re: The Republican party is full of fucking buffoons.
Like back when he was wooing the Tea Party stating Texas may cede from the union.
If Jefferson Davis were resurrected from the dead, would he be a viable Republican candidate. For some strange reason, I suspect he would.

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Message 601 of 1485 (649483)
01-23-2012 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 587 by Rahvin
01-20-2012 1:47 PM


The "socialism" nonsense is more soccer-holliganry than actual debate.
My mom is very conservative and she has bought into this "socialism" nonsense. I asked her how she could be against socialism and still expect to get Social Security and Medicare when she turns 65 in a few years. Her response? SS and Medicare are not socialism because she paid into it. All I could do was shake my head. I started to open my mouth to explain that it is still socialism, but thought better of it. I doubt I could change her mind on the issue.

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Message 606 of 1485 (649565)
01-24-2012 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 602 by Rahvin
01-23-2012 6:02 PM


Just as "she paid into" SS and Medicare, the poor "pay into" social services like unemployment, fire and police protection, SS, Medicare, and so on. Under a public health option, everyone would also "pay into" the service, just as she "paid into" Medicare. Even the unemployed "pay into" these services, because their unemployment check is itself taxed for income, and then taxed through sales taxes to be redistributed into social programs.
If it was anyone but Mom I would tell them just that. I have found that being on Mom's good side is worth its weight in gold.
I have seen Republican elected officials taken to task on this very issue. They cry about the evils of socialism, and then they are asked if we should get rid of Medicare and SS since these are straight up socialism. Oh how they squirm. They know that they need the senior vote which is one of the most active voter blocs out there. They also know that attacking these socialistic programs will cause them to lose votes within that bloc. The best they can do is claim that they want to reform the socialism we already have.
Another point that I wish they would be taken to task on is the claim that we can not afford a government funded single payer system. It is a tacit admission that we can not afford the current cost of health care PERIOD, be it privately or publicly insured. If we replaced private insurance premiums with an equal value tax then we should be able to afford universal single payer health care, no? The problem is that the for profit health care system we have has inflated the cost of health care beyond reason. Perhaps we are past the point of no return, but we should at least try to curtail costs, and the only way I see of doing this is through government intervention. I don't see the people raking in profits being willing to see that money go away.
At least Ron Paul is consistent. He wants to get rid of these programs along with a ton of other government agencies.

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Message 615 of 1485 (650370)
01-30-2012 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 612 by Straggler
01-30-2012 3:10 PM


Re: AAAAAaaaaRRRggHHH!!!
The basis of this view seems to be that the sort of views being espoused in the Republican nomination TV dabates would be considered lunatic fringe nutjobbery in any other developed Western economy.
This is actually a positive for a Republican candidate these days. Sad, but true. Republicans have made a career on villifying European democracies to the point that they can't go any further to the right than nutjobbery. They idolize Ronald Reagan, but Reagan would be way, way too liberal to run in this primary. Afterall, Reagan actually increased taxes during a recession.

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Message 633 of 1485 (650401)
01-30-2012 5:47 PM
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01-30-2012 3:46 PM


Re: AAAAAaaaaRRRggHHH!!!
How the hell did America end up in a position where many of it's leading politicians are fucking insane by any international measure?
Republicans are more of a brand than a political party. So many of their positions have nothing to do with how a country should be run. They have created a climate where voting for a Democrat is equivalent to voting for Satan. Sadly, this removes any chance that the two parties may have to actually work together to solve problems. Taxes must ALWAYS be lowered, at all times. Anyone who does not agree is a satan loving atheist Democrat.

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Message 634 of 1485 (650402)
01-30-2012 5:51 PM
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01-30-2012 4:05 PM


Re: AAAAAaaaaRRRggHHH!!!
I have faith that the people of the US are more collectively sensible than they seem at the moment.............
You have to remember that it is only a minority of voters are voting in the Republican primaries. If a state has closed primaries and the state is split 50/50 between Dems and Reps then only 50% of state can vote, and primaries have very poor turnout. We are probably talking about 15% of voters actually turn out for primaries. This is why they try to appeal to the nutters, because those people do tend to vote at a higher rate.

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Message 656 of 1485 (651344)
02-06-2012 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 655 by Straggler
02-06-2012 3:00 PM


Re: Battle-Born!
How is it decided who can and cannot vote in Republican nominations elections?
It varies from state to state. In states with "closed" primaries, you have to register as a member of the party and can only vote in that primary. In "open" primaries, anyone can vote in any primary they please. There are also states with a mixture of these models.
If a mass of secret Democrats signed up could they have all voted for Hermain Caine and had him win this vote.
They could. All it requires is to fill out a form saying you are a Republican. However, you may not be able to vote in the Democratic primary which does include local nominations for state legislatures.

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