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NoNukes
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Message 208 of 1485 (630925)
08-29-2011 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by 1.61803
08-29-2011 10:14 AM


Re: Bachman drill baby drill! Perry pray baby pray
I just read a article where Bachman advocates the elimination of the EPA.
WTF????
As loony as it sounds, Mr. Ratio, that idea is really popular in some circles.
Many folks consider conservation and environmental concerns to be anti-American doom and gloom talk that doesn't make them feel good. They want to hear that America is Number One, baby. They'll go for anything else including dirty air, ground water full of carcinogens and methane, killing off grandma's safety net, or global warming as long as the policy sounds more like John Wayne than Al Gore.
Now that Osama is dead, some consider the EPA to be public enemy number 2, right behind the ACLU. I don't expect the EPA to be closed down, but it is going to be less effective for the forseeable future no matter who gets elected.

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Message 357 of 1485 (642790)
12-01-2011 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 356 by Moon-Ra
12-01-2011 3:47 PM


Very true, but her opinion of creation represents that of all but one GOP candidate, so where does that leave this country?
With some pretty easy choices next November?

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Message 408 of 1485 (644082)
12-14-2011 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 395 by Coyote
12-14-2011 8:33 PM


Re: Good For Perry
Even if Buz were right about the attitude of GIs, I would find maintaining DADT a reprehensible policy. I have no doubt that back in the late 1940s when the armed services were integrated, there were Buz-like people, perhaps including Buz himself, who felt the same way about having to serve next to colored troops and sailors.
But we shouldn't let those @$#$^ attitudes dictate military policy.
For what it's worth, my own experience suggests that Buz is completely wrong about the way most servicemen think. I served (pre DADT) in quarters about as close as it gets in the military; in a crew of 100+ men on a 400 foot long submarine. Yes there were gay men aboard, some openly and some in the closet. The effect on morale was reasonably close to zero. The most important issue about your fellow sailor on a submarine was whether or not he was qualified to stand a watch so that you could get into a three shift rotation so that you might get some sleep now and then.
DADT makes servicemen and women blackmail targets, and is a huge security risk. It also fostered a situation in which gays were subject to abuse which they could not report for fear of being outed and expelled. It also required people to live and tell lies, when honesty and integrity were essential for survival. DADT did not work.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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Message 427 of 1485 (644718)
12-20-2011 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 426 by Theodoric
12-20-2011 7:57 AM


Re: Like goldy and bronzey ...
Theodoric writes:
...he is very much a stickler for the correct use of all terms.
Perhaps it's time for yet another "irony" v. "sarcasm" discussion.

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NoNukes
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Message 545 of 1485 (648920)
01-19-2012 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 544 by 1.61803
01-19-2012 11:34 AM


Re: Happy Trails Rick Perry is done
Apparently the more laughable candidates are exiting first. Using funniness as a predictor, surely Newt will be next?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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NoNukes
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Message 546 of 1485 (648922)
01-19-2012 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 542 by Dr Adequate
01-17-2012 5:19 PM


Re: Things Rick Perry Doesn't Know
Now I'm trying to think of any Texan who's actually added luster to the fair name of Texas.
Earl Campbell? That's all I can come up with.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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Message 729 of 1485 (654211)
02-28-2012 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 722 by RAZD
02-27-2012 5:43 PM


Re: It makes me want to puke when I read\listen to santorum's rants
Yes, Santorum is a buffoon. No question about that. But an idiot politician is no real surprise. The most amusing part is the cheering throngs that don't even blink at this stuff. Only in America can a politician go on ranting, incoherent tirades against higher education, affordable health care, and the environment in their own country and get a standing O.
Seriously, are there actually large numbers of people who not only don't want to go to college, but also don't want their children to have the opportunity?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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Message 763 of 1485 (655226)
03-08-2012 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 761 by foreveryoung
03-08-2012 7:38 PM


Re: It makes me want to puke when I read\listen to santorum's rants
Although there is some leeway in what is acceptable for faculty to openly believe, there are some things you must never be let known that you believe, let alone teach to your students. This is the opposite of diversity. This is intellectual totalitarianism.
Hilarious.
The idea that ideas are banned in university is right wing paranoid fantasy. Some ideas are held by far fewer academics than others, but mostly because those ideas have lost out based on their merits.
As for this board, you are free to have any opinion you want. But if you hold a minority opinion, by definition, that opinion is not going to be supported by a majority of posters. Not sure how things could be different.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 771 of 1485 (655356)
03-09-2012 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 762 by foreveryoung
03-08-2012 7:47 PM


is true. Contraception leads to a false sense of security. If you think you are safeguarded from pregnancy, you are less likely to think twice before having sex outside of marriage.
It's been close to two decades since I've wanted to have any more children. According to your logic, my wife and I should be practicing abstinence inside of marriage.
I think not...

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 785 of 1485 (655937)
03-15-2012 1:38 AM
Reply to: Message 782 by Dr Adequate
03-14-2012 9:00 PM


Re: Things Rick Santorum Doesn't Know, Part Jillion
Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language.
Does Santorum find it necessary to say something mindbogglingly stupid every single week.
I have to presume that getting even a single Puerto Rico delegate is not part of Santorum's strategy to gain the nomination.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 788 of 1485 (655956)
03-15-2012 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 781 by Dr Adequate
03-14-2012 8:32 PM


Re: Bastions Of Freedom, I'll Read That Again ...
What's up with the people who aren't sure that interracial marriage shouldn't be illegal. Yes, we have the usual suspects of all races who are all for the idea, but who doesn't know whether the state ought to be involved? Does the "don't know" group include the get-a-rope crowd who'd just prefer to take things into their own hands?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 789 of 1485 (655960)
03-15-2012 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 786 by anglagard
03-15-2012 2:11 AM


Re: Things Rick Santorum Doesn't Know, Part Jillion
quote:
...but he has neglected to publicly mention their close ties with the Italian Communist Party.
"At long last, have you left no sense of decency???"
I dislike Santorum as much as does anyone, but seriously, his father's ties to big red really isn't something I'm interested in chasing down.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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Message 821 of 1485 (656903)
03-23-2012 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 820 by Taz
03-22-2012 7:45 PM


Not that puzzling
Taz writes:
I'm still puzzled how anyone, especially Romney's top advisor, could make such a statement.
I think you misspoke a bit here. It is only Romney and his advisors who would not be expected to make such a statement. Most other people know that a) Romney has a history of taking politically expedient positions and b) it is probably true that you cannot get elected president by taking far right positions against college education, women's health, and for teaching poor kids janitorial skills in elementary school.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 859 of 1485 (707927)
10-02-2013 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 856 by 1.61803
10-01-2013 12:16 PM


Congress FUBAR
The T-party Congressman from the western part of our state (North Carolina) is celebrating his success at leading the charge in shutting down the Government.
I simply don't see a way out of the shutdown that will allow all of the parties to save face. Obama can't back down, and is in fact under no pressure to give an inch on ACA now that the ACA exchanges are open. And if he does cave, what would he have to give up 90 days from now when we go through this crap again?
The tea party thinks they've won already so they aren't going to back down. Boehner can push a bill through the House by using Democratic votes but only at the expense of being ousted as chair once again. And if that happens, likely the next person will be a true dick.
And then there is the debt ceiling stuff in about two weeks...

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 863 of 1485 (707941)
10-02-2013 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 862 by petrophysics1
10-02-2013 11:40 AM


Re: Congress FUBAR
The government has shut down 17 times since 1976, and no productive citizen even noticed.
So the next time we hear you complain about how obtrusive government is, I guess we will know your complaint is total nonsense. It's all the same to you whether the federal government is closed or open.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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