Message 781 of 849 (655921) 03-14-2012 8:32 PM

Reply to: Message 780 by RAZD 03-14-2012 8:03 PM

On Monday, polling firm Public Policy Polling (PPP) revealed that 29 percent of likely GOP voters surveyed in Mississippi believe that interracial marriage should be illegal. Fifty-four percent said intermarriage should remain legal, and the rest responded that they weren't sure. The survey also found that 21 percent of likely GOP voters polled in Alabama believe that interracial marriage should be illegal.

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Message 782 of 849 (655923) 03-14-2012 9:00 PM

In an interview with El Vocero newspaper, Santorum said he supported Puerto Ricans' right to self-determination regarding the island's political status.

"We need to work together and determine what type of relationship we want to develop," he told the newspaper.

But Santorum said he did not support a state in which English was not the primary language.

"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language. There are other states with more than one language such as Hawaii but to be a state of the United States, English has to be the principal language."

Because, er, freedom of speech? No, that can't be it.

Well, that pesky federal law must be there somewhere. And it gives a great loophole for secessionists, anyone who wants (for example) a Republic of Texas just has to persuade a majority of Texans to spend a few days saying "si" and "gracias" to each other and by the mighty power of "federal law" they will apparently leave the union. Then they can stop. That whole Civil War thing was a complete waste of time.

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Message 783 of 849 (655926) 03-14-2012 9:59 PM

Reply to: Message 781 by Dr Adequate 03-14-2012 8:32 PM

Curiously, I'm rather surprised the numbers are so low. We're talking areas of the south where freedom riders were brutally murdered, and that was less than a generation ago, in an area that prides itself on long memories of perceived injustices from the civil war to modern day.

I had a boss that said he wished they'd bring back slavery so he could use a whip to increase productivity.

But I've also seen racism alive and flourishing in Michigan and Indiana -- all you need to do is get out of the city.

Some people mock the afghans etc for living such primitive lives, yet living conditions in the south for many (black and white) are not much better.

One of the reasons I could not wait to leave MS was that they were 2nd from the bottom in education and our son was just entering school. Almost makes a case for home schooling.

But of course it is all about "family values" right? Or is "family values" just code for "our family" ... our group ... race?

Enjoy.

Message 785 of 849 (655937) 03-15-2012 1:38 AM

Reply to: Message 782 by Dr Adequate 03-14-2012 9:00 PM

Does Santorum find it necessary to say something mindbogglingly stupid every single week.

I have to presume that getting even a single Puerto Rico delegate is not part of Santorum's strategy to gain the nomination.

Message 786 of 849 (655939) 03-15-2012 2:11 AM

Reply to: Message 784 by DBlevins 03-15-2012 12:12 AM

No, not wrong. This source, among hundreds, is as good as any.

As if it is that difficult to verify. Guess Santorum doesn't know how to use the 'intertubes'. He must have been one hell of a lawyer, not knowing the core federal laws and cursing all others who do actually know how to look it up as snobs. Rather surprised he is not actively campaigning to lower the literacy rate.

That is not the worst of it IMO, what is his and other Republicans problem with women having basic human rights? I don't want them nosing around in the wife's or daughters privates. What's the major malfunction, do they have mommy issues? Great, what's next, Ed Gein for president?

Then again perhaps he is angling for his own entry in the upcoming DSM 5 to replace that 'intertube' definition.

{ABE} How about a fun factoid.

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On the campaign trail, Santorum often touts his grandfather’s flight from Italy “to escape fascism,” but he has neglected to publicly mention their close ties with the Italian Communist Party.

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source{/ABE}

Edited by anglagard, : nice little addition to the family tree

Message 787 of 849 (655953) 03-15-2012 3:49 AM

Reply to: Message 780 by RAZD 03-14-2012 8:03 PM

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Not all the stupid people are in Mississippi
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...w-hampshire-_n_1345771.html

it just seems that a lot of them are republicans ....

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I did not enjoy

It seems that idiocy is strong with Teapartyists. Although I consider myself a peaceful person, statements like that make me wanna raise my fist. Unbelievable.

Message 789 of 849 (655960) 03-15-2012 4:46 AM

Reply to: Message 786 by anglagard 03-15-2012 2:11 AM

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...but he has neglected to publicly mention their close ties with the Italian Communist Party.

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"At long last, have you left no sense of decency???"

I dislike Santorum as much as does anyone, but seriously, his father's ties to big red really isn't something I'm interested in chasing down.

Message 791 of 849 (656012) 03-15-2012 2:31 PM

Reply to: Message 787 by saab93f 03-15-2012 3:49 AM

Agreed, as I have not seen any teaparty person that does not display some level of stupidity. Of course this may just be that the vocal ones are the idiotically inclined.

This, of course, is a good reason for the GOP to have run screaming away from the TPers, rather than embrace them and letting them take over the house.

But not all are republicans.

I've also seen some stupid people that seem to be democrats, and I'm sure a list of stupid democrat positions can be compiled, I just think there are more in the republican party, especially when you get to "hick" country.

Then there is the issue of how many people are stupid compared to those that actually apply logical objective reason to their political positions.

Enjoy.

Message 792 of 849 (656013) 03-15-2012 2:38 PM

Reply to: Message 791 by RAZD 03-15-2012 2:31 PM

I very strongly suspect that the ration of sane to insane individuals on the matter of politics would be horribly depressing. At least in the States. I've said for a long time that Americans are like soccer hooligans in politics, basing support on a particular "team" rather than a consequential analysis of policy.

I'm also fairly certain that cuts in several directions, including both "mainstream" parties, and some others.

But then I'm rather cynical on the matter of sanity for the entire species across most topics, not merely politics.

Message 793 of 849 (656014) 03-15-2012 3:23 PM

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[History] also documents the power of propaganda in a society whose political culture is dominated by a privately owned and corporately controlled “news” media.

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So what does this corporate "news" offer us? The current republican candidates are some of the most immoral and unintelligent freaks ever collected under a circus tent. However, I think the current republican candidates are, in fact, a brilliantly organized distraction to keep one of the greatest "republican" presidents in office. All hail the shiny objects. Look, they sparkle! (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain)

I found the following short article that does a better and more detailed job of communicating this idea than me. If you have a moment, read ALL of it. And, as we continue to mock out the republican candidates, know for sure that the 1%ers will get the last laugh on US.

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It’s overly simplistic to think that the Republicans are losing, just because their candidates may lose. The Republican Party, or more specifically, the plutocratic movement that owns and operates the party, is much better at setting and meeting long-range goals than are progressives, centrists, or even old school conservatives. They have their eye on the ball, not the election. And, on issues that matter to corporate and plutocratic interests, the ball has maintained an unabated rightward surge since about 1980, no matter what political party nominally claims to be in power.

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But looking at the larger picture, the Republicans win because we are not debating or acting on the issues they’d rather have us not to debate or act on.

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http://www.truth-out.org/...publicans-are-winning/1331221630

Message 794 of 849 (656016) 03-15-2012 3:58 PM

Reply to: Message 793 by dronester 03-15-2012 3:23 PM

Ah, I see. The Republican Party is just a big conspiracy to keep a Democrat in office.

Well, that's got to be the stupidest idea I've ever heard, just beating out "bananas, the atheists' worst nightmare" for the much-coveted crown.

No-one needs to "brilliantly organize" the clusterfuck that is the GOP to make fools of themselves. They do it without organization. They do it for free. They're morons. And if it was brilliantly organized, Romney wouldn't be the front-runner. It would be Santorum. Or Bachmann. Or Chuck Norris.

Message 795 of 849 (656017) 03-15-2012 4:05 PM

Reply to: Message 794 by Dr Adequate 03-15-2012 3:58 PM

But, don't you ever lie awake and wonder how SO many people are supporting these republican candidates? Romney? Gingrich? Santorum? Bachman? Just a little twighlight zone-ish? C'mon, admit it, I won't tell anyone.