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IamJoseph
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Message 136 of 182 (629265)
08-16-2011 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by jar
08-16-2011 6:28 PM


Re: Call 911
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Re: Call 911
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What the hell does "the first recording of life form groupings" even mean?


Here we go again! I said it in my native language too, clearly and with no other meaning applying. Life form groupings are 'species' of life forms with common denominators [e.g. land based]; first recording is - 'FIRST RECORDING OF IT'.


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Nuggin
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Message 137 of 182 (629266)
08-16-2011 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:24 PM


Re: Call 911
Your frog leaping, as seen in most responses here. The issue was the first recording of life form groupings.

First off, I don't own a frog.

Second, we've been talking about it. You asked where life forms had been recorded prior to the Bible.

I pointed out cave paintings. In response, you claimed that there should be 5 trillion aboriginies. ?!?!

Then YOU brought up the fact that Egyptian heiroglyphics also demonstrate different kinds of animals and predate the bible.

Fantastic. So, between the two of us, that's 2 things which predate your claim.

So, that's that.


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jar
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Message 138 of 182 (629267)
08-16-2011 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:32 PM


Re: Call 911
Keep trying cause you are still making no sense.

What the hell does "the first recording of life form groupings" even mean?


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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IamJoseph
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Message 139 of 182 (629268)
08-16-2011 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by frako
08-16-2011 11:04 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Homeosaps with a NAME, date, place - followed by evidencial history of a diarised calendar are thus the non-virtual kind.

What's the oldest human NAME on record?


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fearandloathing
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Message 140 of 182 (629269)
08-16-2011 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:35 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Homeosaps with a NAME, date, place - followed by evidencial history of a diarised calendar are thus the non-virtual kind.

WTF does this mean? Can you not speak in easy to understand English...act like you are talking to a 10 year old for me.


"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
— Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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IamJoseph
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Message 141 of 182 (629270)
08-16-2011 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Nuggin
08-16-2011 6:32 PM


Re: Call 911
quote:
Frst off, I don't own a frog.

Second, we've been talking about it. You asked where life forms had been recorded prior to the Bible.

I pointed out cave paintings. In response, you claimed that there should be 5 trillion aboriginies. ?!?!

Then YOU brought up the fact that Egyptian heiroglyphics also demonstrate different kinds of animals and predate the bible.

Fantastic. So, between the two of us, that's 2 things which predate your claim.

So, that's that.


60K cave drawings are not life form groupings - these are just alledged 60K year old drawings; the term specie is a direct lift off from Genesis of a first recording of it with a new name.

Yes, 60K and 30K humans able to perform animal drawings would number in the billions and trillions today. Not to mention mental prowess increments.

Why did you not ask such questions insead of opening mouth wide and saying AAH YES PLS?


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jar
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Message 142 of 182 (629271)
08-16-2011 6:46 PM
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08-16-2011 6:35 PM


What's the oldest human NAME on record?
Válmíki

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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IamJoseph
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Message 143 of 182 (629272)
08-16-2011 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by fearandloathing
08-16-2011 6:41 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Once more with feelings:

Alledged 60K humans who performed animal drawings, with no graduated imprints on the ground thereafter - are 'VIRTUAL'

The listing of humans with names, writings, their ages, dod & dobs, locations, unearthed relics, etc - are the non-virtual kind.


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fearandloathing
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Message 144 of 182 (629273)
08-16-2011 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:47 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Your use of virtual and non-virtual is bewildering? I cant see any useful communication taking place here, it seems our use of English is far too different, thanks for trying.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
— Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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Nuggin
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Message 145 of 182 (629274)
08-16-2011 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:43 PM


Re: Call 911
60K cave drawings are not life form groupings - these are just alledged 60K year old drawings; the term specie is a direct lift off from Genesis of a first recording of it with a new name.

Horses are together. Lions are together. Fish are together. Bovines are together.

That's groupings.

Meanwhile the term species is not a "direct lift" from Genesis, no matter how much you like to pretend.

The word "species" does not appear in the Bible.


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Nuggin
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Message 146 of 182 (629275)
08-16-2011 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:43 PM


Re: Call 911
Yes, 60K and 30K humans able to perform animal drawings would number in the billions and trillions today. Not to mention mental prowess increments.

Here's a "mental prowess" exercise for you.

If you have 10 people on a boat, and there is food enough to keep 4 people alive for 1 month. How many of them will be alive after 1 year on the boat?


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Nuggin
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Message 147 of 182 (629276)
08-16-2011 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:47 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Alledged 60K humans who performed animal drawings, with no graduated imprints on the ground thereafter - are 'VIRTUAL'

Alledged jews who pretend "words" represent "animals" with no actual artistic representation to prove to use what they are talking about are "VIRTUAL".

The listing of humans with names, writings, their ages, dod & dobs, locations, unearthed relics, etc - are the non-virtual kind.

Yes, we are aware you have a make believe list. We could pretend to have a make believe list too, but we are adults.


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frako
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Message 148 of 182 (629277)
08-16-2011 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:35 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
What's the oldest human NAME on record?

That would be klu klu from the tu'chaka clan recorded 190 345 years ago before there was any writing, and before the hebrew god was invented.

Lol writing has not been arround quite long, so my guess is 6000 years give or take.

Homeosaps with a NAME, date, place - followed by evidencial history of a diarised calendar are thus the non-virtual kind.

Writing is a relatively new invention some 6000 years old

Um why is this relevant i could show you some cave drawings that are over 33 000 years old, they could have been "writings" of sorts like me klu klu of threadbare tribe kill big elephant yesterday.


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Panda
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Message 149 of 182 (629278)
08-16-2011 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:35 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
IamJoseph writes:

Homeosaps...


'Homeosaps' is not a real word.
What language do you think you are speaking?
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IamJoseph
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Message 150 of 182 (629279)
08-16-2011 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by frako
08-16-2011 7:17 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
This, like many such posts, say the non-creationists have lost all credibility, and has become akin to another radical fundamentalist religion.
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