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subbie
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Message 121 of 182 (629198)
08-16-2011 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by Nuggin
08-16-2011 10:06 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
A population can not exceed it's available food source for any sustained period of time. End of story.

But with 5 trillion people there, think of all the Soylent Green they'd have. They could feed multitudes!


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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Nuggin
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Message 122 of 182 (629200)
08-16-2011 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 10:00 AM


Water water everywhere, and Joseph can not think
This is a myth. Australia is surrounded by H20 and has more water than the middle-east, which is also half desert. Sparse population still cannot justify no evidences at all for 60K years.

Surrounded by _salt water_ which clearly you have been drinking.

AND, you are desperately trying to change topics. "evidences at all for 60k years"??! WTF does that have to do with your claim that there should be 5 trillion Australians.

Could 5 trillion people living in Australia TODAY? Right now? Even with worldwide food production? We wouldn't have enough people over the entire rest of the world to produce and transport enough food fast enough to support that many people in Australia. And we have PLANES.

Clearly population size is limited by resources.

Until you admit that, there's really no reason for you to type anything.


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Nuggin
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Message 123 of 182 (629201)
08-16-2011 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by frako
08-16-2011 10:16 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
You really must be living in la la land

As a citizen of La La Land, I reject your insulting implication that we'd ever accept someone like Joseph here.


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Nuggin
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Message 124 of 182 (629202)
08-16-2011 10:26 AM
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08-16-2011 10:18 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
But with 5 trillion people there, think of all the Soylent Green they'd have. They could feed multitudes!

Wait, are you saying that Soylent Green is people?

It's peeeeeeeoppppple?!?!


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Message 125 of 182 (629204)
08-16-2011 10:27 AM
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08-16-2011 10:26 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
Spoiler!

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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IamJoseph
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Message 126 of 182 (629206)
08-16-2011 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Parasomnium
08-16-2011 9:39 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
So you accept that today's population of some 6.5B is resultant from 30K years ago - or even 60K?
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Message 127 of 182 (629208)
08-16-2011 11:03 AM
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08-16-2011 11:00 AM


Re: "Flawed" arguments
So you accept that today's population of some 6.5B is resultant from 30K years ago - or even 60K?

Modern humans (archaic variety) developed on the close order of 200,000 years ago.

But your argument is clearly flawed: the growth rate of bacteria is such that if they multiplied as you imply humans do they would exceed the mass of the earth in short order, and the mass of the universe not long after.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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frako
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Message 128 of 182 (629209)
08-16-2011 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 11:00 AM


Re: "Popular" arguments
I think homo sapiens is even older then that and i accept it, while you reject reality and substitute your own.
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Message 129 of 182 (629217)
08-16-2011 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 9:25 AM


Re: more of the same from IamJoseph
IamJoseph writes:

How about 'winged creatures.'


Why are you asking me what kind it is?
Do you not know?
But since 'winged creatures' is not a 'kind' listed in the bible - I would expect that you are wrong.

Where do mosquitoes fit into your 'kinds'?
Are they land kind; are they water kind or are the airborne kind?


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Larni
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Message 130 of 182 (629220)
08-16-2011 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Nuggin
08-16-2011 9:58 AM


Larni to the rescue!
Seriously, you are mentally disturbed. You need PROFESSIONAL help. You are a danger to yourself and others.

Stand back ladies and gents this looks like my field of........

Oh, what a minute, it's IAJ

WAY too complex!


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Message 131 of 182 (629249)
08-16-2011 3:45 PM


I think IamJoseph is a verry good candidate for the QQQQQ, or the the golden crockoduck.


  
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Message 132 of 182 (629250)
08-16-2011 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 5:37 AM


None of that had anything at all to do with the topic.

Simple question: Among those Christian groups that would embrace "creation science", commonly called "fundamentalists" though that term properly applied is too narrow, is the purpose of education to compel the students to adopt certain beliefs?


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IamJoseph
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Message 133 of 182 (629261)
08-16-2011 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Nuggin
08-16-2011 9:58 AM


Re: Call 911
Your frog leaping, as seen in most responses here. The issue was the first recording of life form groupings. Otherwise start a thread of the most colorful deflection strategies.
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Message 134 of 182 (629263)
08-16-2011 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:24 PM


Re: Call 911
What the hell does "the first recording of life form groupings" even mean?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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IamJoseph
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Message 135 of 182 (629264)
08-16-2011 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Panda
08-16-2011 11:58 AM


Re: more of the same from IamJoseph
quote:
Why are you asking me what kind it is?
Do you not know?
But since 'winged creatures' is not a 'kind' listed in the bible - I would expect that you are wrong.
Where do mosquitoes fit into your 'kinds'?
Are they land kind; are they water kind or are the airborne kind?

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I wasn't asking - I was reminding you to read before wasting virtual ink. 'Winged creatures' are surely listed, even as emerging from the waters, in the only hard copy texts greater than 2,300 years old.


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