Nuggin asks:
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What would it take to convince an IDer of ToE?
Phatboy adds:
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What would it take to convince traditional geologists/biologists/archeologists that I.D. is valid science?
You only have to look at the behaviour of both for answers to those questions.
IDers typically don't accept evidence and logical reasoning because they have their "truth" carved in stone. Nothing can convince them. ID is nothing but a ploy for something else, namely to force their religion on others.
Evolutionists have asked over and over for supporting evidence for ID's claims. Also they want ID to make scientific predictions that can be tested. And finally they want ID to show it's falsifiability.
This should be a hint. Evidence, predictions, and falsifiability might convince evolutionists, because that's what convinced them of evolution. In other words, they want ID to finally do what it always claims to do, but never does: produce some actual science.
So, to recap:
What would it take to convince an IDer? Nothing, they can't be convinced.
What would it take to convince an evolutionist? Science.
This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 15-Sep-2005 09:08 AM
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