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Author Topic:   What's The Best Solution For Humanity?
NoNukes
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Message 18 of 301 (631275)
08-31-2011 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by IamJoseph
08-31-2011 5:44 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
No. I'm saying that the population will increase no matter what we do - even if we use the china syndrome of limiting offspring to whoever wins lotto
If population control is off the table, then humanity is doomed. We are never, ever getting out of this solar system, and there simply aren't all that many new places around the sun that can support human life in a self-sustaining way.
Once humanity fills up this planet, if there is no decrease in population growth, the remaining possibilities for humans will get filled in very short order. Mars and the moon are awful tiny. My guess is that humans won't get any further away from earth than Mars.
Further, humans don't seem to tolerate each other very well when it comes to sharing scarce resources. I don't believe any amount of education will change that. So if the population does keep growing, famine and war are also inevitable.
But I don't believe continually population growth is even possible. We are going to continue screw up our ecological system, encounter new diseases, and fight wars, use up rare materials on which civilization depends, so that if we don't control it ourselves, population will come down. If we are lucky, what's left of earth will be able to sustain intelligent life and we won't enter a 1000 year dark age.

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NoNukes
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Message 20 of 301 (631286)
08-31-2011 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Aware Wolf
08-31-2011 10:45 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
I agree with the first part of this statement, but what about building our own places to live; like giant space stations? We couldn't do that today, of course, but 300 years from now, who knows?
From all indications, pretty soon humans are going to be incapable of even returning to the ISS, let alone building self sustaining space stations of any size.
I don't believe that giant space stations have even the slightest chance of helping us to sustain indefinite, be fruitful and multiply, population growth. That was fine advice for Adam and Abraham, but it is self-destructive behavior for us.

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NoNukes
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Message 27 of 301 (631532)
09-01-2011 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by IamJoseph
08-31-2011 7:06 PM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
By your view, humanity is toast both ways:
No. That appears to be your view. I've merely indicated that expansion to new lands isn't a viable solution. You are the one that seems to think we have to keep multiplying without restraint.

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