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Author Topic:   Intelligent design. Philosophy of ignorance.
DivineBeginning
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Message 186 of 301 (371103)
12-20-2006 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Modulous
11-23-2006 4:45 PM


You really should buy this video and watch it objectively...But here's a small preview:
Page not found | Intelligent Design Movies – Illustra Media
The Privileged Planet Preview

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DivineBeginning
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Message 191 of 301 (371244)
12-20-2006 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by jar
12-20-2006 9:31 AM


Re: Why?
Have you watched the whole video yet? I'm impressed if you have. Sure there are organisms that can survive in cold temperatures and boiling sulfphuric acid, etc etc. But the problem is, if the whole earth was like that, WE couldn't survive. If the earth's crust couldn't support the magma and the tectonic activity, what would happen to all the organisms? I thought you would see that pretty clearly. Please tell me that false assumption this is based on.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 192 of 301 (371245)
12-20-2006 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by Modulous
12-20-2006 10:38 AM


You completely misunderstood what they were saying. What they are saying is that for all those factors to happen all at the same time, the probabilities are to be multiplied together. This gives us that small fraction. This is what shows us that our earth isn't just here by accident.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 193 of 301 (371248)
12-20-2006 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by iceage
12-20-2006 12:08 PM


Re: improbability != intelligently design
As far as probabilities go what do you think the probability of you being born given a starting position of 10000 years ago. There are a very large number of very minor events that would have effected the event of you being born. You are astronomically improbable but there are you are - amazing isn't.
You truly need help!!!

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DivineBeginning
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Message 196 of 301 (371262)
12-20-2006 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by jar
12-20-2006 7:25 PM


Re: Why?
You are truly a pompous jerk!! These are scientific facts that cannot be disputed any more than the facts you feed everyone!!! Do us all a favor and keep your comments that are so indignant to yourself. You are a disgrace to the scientific community when you make comments like that

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DivineBeginning
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Message 202 of 301 (371296)
12-20-2006 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by AdminNosy
12-20-2006 7:49 PM


Re: Caution DB
Jar has been giving me backhanded insults from the beginning of the thread. He thinks he is above everyone that disagrees with him. He says he's a Christian? A christian means "Christ like". What does Christ think of the idea of His Father not creating the universe?

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DivineBeginning
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Message 203 of 301 (371298)
12-20-2006 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by ringo
12-20-2006 7:49 PM


Re: Why?
I know, and I have pointed out what was wrong with several arguments from you guys, but all I get back is that I am an utter fool. So, I say he got what he deserved

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DivineBeginning
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Message 204 of 301 (371299)
12-20-2006 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by jar
12-20-2006 8:05 PM


Re: Why?
Life went on here on earth for billions of years before man and will likely go on for billions of years after man is gone.
Can you prove this?
The facts are that the crust does not support the magma, the magma supports the crust.
Are you that ignorant? They are talking about the crust being thick enough to support the rising energy from the molten magma.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 205 of 301 (371300)
12-20-2006 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by RAZD
12-20-2006 9:17 PM


Re: improbability != intelligently design
This is post hoc ergo propter hoc
Could you just use plain english here?
I hope you enjoy being "privileged", but don't abuse it (it's so hard to play the matryred christian afterwards).
Whatever.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 207 of 301 (371302)
12-20-2006 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by AdminNosy
12-20-2006 10:34 PM


Re: Insults?
All right. OK. I will refrain myself. But I will have it be known that Jar is quite condescending with his remarks to me. The words he uses to describe what I bring up are pretty mean. I guess I will just have to ignore him. I have dealt with worse.

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Message 209 of 301 (371304)
12-20-2006 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by alacrity fitzhugh
12-20-2006 10:51 PM


Thanks, I didn't know that!!! Seriously, thank you. You said that very nicely. I appreciate that.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 211 of 301 (371306)
12-20-2006 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by jar
12-20-2006 10:53 PM


Re: Why?
OK Jar, you got me. You win!! I will shut up now. It is obvious that I cannot play in your court.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 217 of 301 (371473)
12-21-2006 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by RAZD
12-21-2006 5:30 PM


Re: learning
Thanks for help about quote boxes
and thanks for the help about using wikipedia. I often forget about the resources available. I am sorry about the attacks and my attitude toward all you guys. I have a lot to learn yet. I will never relinquish my faith in Jesus Christ to anyone or thing, but I will never quiet my thirst for learning more. I appreciate your patience with me. I know I've been pretty bad myself.
DB

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