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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 282 of 1198 (653674)
02-23-2012 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
09-12-2011 8:23 PM


There was never an alleged original sin but an initial choice
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jar writes:
It is only those things that got passed down and not one of them deals with Original Sin.
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On a time when the meaning of the word death was not expressed by the use of one specific word, and the term to die was not known yet by the first hearers, there was the ancient term for death: to return to the dust of the ground, which was utilized to describe a literal fall of man, as in the original sense of the word pecare: to precipitate literally, having nothing to do with fall in the sense of spiritual or moral fall.
It was only later that the sense of spiritual or moral fall was added to the versions that were made for religion and beliefs, and then to the word pecare another meaning was added: to sin. However, in countries that speak Latin languages, when the small fruits of a tree do precipitate and fall, people call them pecados (precipitated ones).
People make the choice of paying a price for food and bread and no one calls it punishment. Even so the words of Genesis as originally written, spoken to the ones who ate incompatible food, refer to a price to be paid in case one keeps on choosing that option.
There was never an alleged original sin but an initial choice: Regardless of whoever first did or whoever continues making that same choice until the day that is called Today, that initial choice is what originates a gradual precipitation and fall to the dust of the ground as highlighted in the paraphrases of Wisdom as originally written which quotes the hidden words of Yhwh:
And they counted not on a recompense of justice nor discern the innocent souls' reward. Neither did they know the hidden words of Yahweh:
For Yahweh formed man to be imperishable; the likeness of Yhwh's own nature (s)he made him.
But for [free choice in the] *despise of the evil, death was left [as an option] for the world, and they who choose the evil experience it.
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* despise of what is evil — The term despise of the evil was substituted with 'envy of the devil' in the translations that were left to belong to the ministry of the eighth kingdom.
They who said among themselves, thinking not aright:
"Brief and troublous is our lifetime; neither is there any remedy for man's dying;
For our lifetime is the passing of a shadow; and our dying cannot be deferred because it is fixed with a seal.
Let us condemn [a man] to *a death that does not dignify;
* that does not dignify: a death that could be avoided by listening to the words that initiate the immortality. The condemnation is not seeing nor hearing but believing in spirits of men by not verifying for consistency of mastercopies that were left to the doctrines of faiths of the earth.
When an old levee breaks or when a person dies by old age, there is the procedure of weeping and moaning according to the habits of the old levees who teach: that one must make a seventh day mass and pray for the dead. However, every prayer ritual and the practice of praying for the dead are teachings not found in the book of life of the lamb. On this, if your levee will break because of giving credit: the guarantee that comes from who believes that your body will have to become dust of the ground anyway: On that day, cryin’ won’t help you. Prayer won’t do you no good.
A man who is like a mountain doesn't have the habit of going anywhere nor can be convinced beforehand to leave his body that is home and tabernacle made for the spirit, unless an old levee of souls has got what it takes to cause him to precipitate believing that he will have to leave his home and tabernacle of his body:
A doctrinal image from the eighth reign (State of Vatican)
in the copies made by scribes, copists and translators for the book of Genesis
built upon the doctrine of the open sepulchre
For fifteen centuries a mixed cup overflowed. Another version for the book of Genesis and all the rest of the books of scriptures was built for the usage of who ever identifies himself with religion, who is told what to do by the man, and for those who take advantage from a circumstance of gloom for a need of giving credit, so that they might say that, believing, they are creditors of merit and salvation. The image and semblance of scribes and pharisees is a sequence of camouflages made for the saved ones who visualize their own open sepulchres, empty awaiting for them.
To camouflage the Word — To make believe that by the living Word the Human body was formed to have as design and plan: to become dust of the ground since the words from the Initial Time, about eating solely what is compatible for the body to stay free from death, would not be valid during the day that is called Today. The first words spoken to man after the Human body was formed would have ceased from being eternal words in these days.
To camouflage the people's design and plan — To make believe that after the alleged (moral or spiritual) fall of [the] man, all the rest of the people should consider themselves fallen and consequently punished because of the choices made by a corruptible man.
Copists, translators, hebraists and doctorates on Modern Hebrew, having the keys of the books of the ancients, hid them: nor did they enter, and those who desired to enter, they permitted them not. When examining the field of copies made by the scribes and doctorates for the book of Genesis one needs to be prudent as [when dealing with] serpents and, at the same time, innocent as doves.
Dove's eyes do focus on images with a sharper vision.
From the fruits of the solid trees you can freely eat, however, you can not eat from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil [the fruit of the olive tree and the olive oil] because in the time you eat from it you will be [gradually] dying.
This is about possibility in regards to the limit of the body: it is not possible to eat incompatible food and at the same time, not be doing a gradual fall to the dust of the ground. The word from the Initial Time does not speak about a law that can be broken nor a line that can be trespassed. It is about an extreme limit one can not go further. If it was possible to go beyond the line then who ever trespassed it would not die.
Indeed the words that initiate, as originally written in the book of the ancients, have nothing to do with giving an order or commandment since orders are forgotten and commandments can be constantly broken. To verify and ascertain whether the Human body was made to remain free from death or that the aging process and the death that results from it can be avoided is doing the experiment of ceasing the comsumption of incompatible nourishments.
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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 283 of 1198 (653694)
02-23-2012 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by jaywill
11-09-2011 7:47 AM


The religion's lie: people should consider themselves fallen and punished
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jaywill writes:
Genesis strongly implies something of the constitution of man was damaged by the act of Adam, and carried forward to all of his descendents.
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That is what religion and doctrines of faiths want you to believe, that you were made to die, your dying bed would be ready and a new sepulcher would be open awaiting for you.
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..... to make believe that after the alleged (moral or spiritual) fall of [the] man, all the rest of the people should consider themselves fallen and consequently punished because of the choices made by a corruptible man.
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Immortality is initiated when the Human body is nourished only with fruits, the ones from compatible solid trees, that keeps the medulla oblongata and the brain as new and the body free from aging process.
When one abstains from digesting incompatible foods the result is that all nutrient substances that are intrinsically Human, such as calcium, hormones and proteins, would not need at any moment to be set apart and decomposed for the production of the precise type of gastric juice that is required to digest dead flesh and regular food.
The ultimate cause of death by old age — For a body composed of nutrients from the dust of the earth it is not proper to digest the same type of nutrients with which the Human body was formed rather than the nutrients that are produced by the compatible solid trees that were made specially for this purpose.
You are what you eat and if a person does a gradual and continual approach to the dust of the ground, nourishing from regular food which is composed of the same nutrients from the earth with which the Human body was made, then that is what the body will gradually become: dust of the earth.
From the dust — The nutrients of incompatible food come from the dust of the ground.
From the solid tree — Nutrients of compatible fruits do not come from the dust of the ground. They are filtered essences produced by the solid tree itself. The extension of her trunk is made up of millions of little bitty tubes that do filter and separate the nutrients out. On this, the fruit of the solid tree is a nutrient property given exclusively by the tree.
The Human body does not die of natural causes — The term made out of the dust of the earth clears up that the body was formed with the same nutrient properties that nurture all plants of the earth, and for this reason it was not made to digest regular food or dead flesh without a gradual decomposition of living substances that are intrinsically and specifically Human. The aging process and the death that results from it can be avoided since they occur because one can not eat incompatible food and at the same time not die gradually.
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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