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Importance of Original Sin

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Modulous
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Message 18 of 1198 (633240)
09-13-2011 9:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by jaywill
09-13-2011 9:16 AM

Re: Jesus and Paul Were Jews
Basically, Jesus taught that people should repent and start behaving.
Interesting that I cannot find to word "repent" anywhere in the Gospel of John.
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But it is in the Gospel of Matthew, (3:2 for example), Mark (1:15), Luke (13:3) and in Acts (26:20).
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02-04-2014 12:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 938 by Phat
02-04-2014 11:11 AM

Re: jar (note, all lower case) position
OK so who is "us"? I thought there was only One God....
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elohiym, presumably.
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02-04-2014 4:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 944 by Phat
02-04-2014 4:12 PM

elohiym r us
It should be noted that it overwhelmingly refers to god/s.
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God (2,346x), god (244x), judge (5x), GOD (1x), goddess (2x), great (2x), mighty (2x), angels (1x), exceeding (1x), God-ward (with H4136) (1x), godly (1x).
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And Genesis 3:5 is normally translated:
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quote:
For God (elohiym) doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods (elohiym), knowing good and evil.
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Since there were no human Judges, it must refer to celestial beings/divine ones even if we don't suppose its true godhood. And its only 'as' gods, not actually gods. It's just that the only things that know good and evil at this point in the story are the divine beings (god, possibly his wife and the angels (including Satan)).
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