I have been looking at the Transformer. MY wife needs a tablet of some sort for her work. She is currently still using an old Palm Pilot she originally got in residency 7 years ago. There have been some battery issues and app support for it is drying up. Lots of people are suing the Ipad but I see huge issues with it. Primarily that you need an Itunes account to effectively use it. Also, I do not want any tablet that is tied into a wireless carrier. I am not going to pay extra for a data package. If there is no wifi available then we wont need to access the internet.
I has high hopes for the HP Touchpad, but it seems it was oversold and underbuilt.
USB support is a big thing for me. I do not want to have to transfer everything wirelessly. I understand a new transformer is due in October. This will ahve the new Tegra 3 Kal-El chip and run the Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich operating system. If the reviews are good and if the new medical records system at the clinic will support it, I think my wife may get one for Christmas.
I am willing to take other suggestions, but I really want to stay away from the Ipad.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
I have serious issues with the fact Itunes wants to be the end all and be all of the tablet. I do not like that there is one avenue to get data and apps.
I am a freaky privacy issue type of guy. Apple is terrible in the realm of privacy. So is Google. The difference is I have already sold my soul to Google and see no reason to sell it to a different devil.
And almost everybody finds the iPad superior to the alternatives; iOS has a "fit and finish" to it that Android really doesn't (too many fingers in the Android pie to get that kind of cohesive software design.)
Well this is a personal thing I think. I have used some android devices and I do not find the IOS superior in anyway. I do not find it inferior either but I do not find it superior. I also like the idea of a system that is not controlled by one entity.
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Also, isn't your wife the one who has to use it? Maybe it's not fair for her to have to live according to your principles.
What the hell does this have to do with anything? How do you know we don't have the same principles? How about minding your own business and sticking to the topic? You may have read earlier, if you had read with an open mind, that the final decision will rest upon what will work best with her new clinic software.
I think the Android system is going to be in the long run the more vital vibrant system. You may have a different opinion. The IOS and Android systems are going to have similar downfalls. Because of personal experience I have decided I want to go with Android. Is that ok with you? I may have to go with Apple and I am ok with that. I just have a preference.
Now if you have nothing constructive to say how about you no say anything.
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out of which you opted to respond to only a single line that really was nothing more than an afterthought.
Really? Can you actually read with an open mine.
As from the first line of mine you quoted you can see that I did not respond to just a single line. Your afterthought was petty and snarky and brought nothing to the discussion.
Maybe you can reread my post and see this.
Theodoric writes:
I think the Android system is going to be in the long run the more vital vibrant system. You may have a different opinion. The IOS and Android systems are going to have similar downfalls. Because of personal experience I have decided I want to go with Android.
Back to you post
frog writes:
Well, that's clearly a mistake.
And I think it is too early to make sweeping comments like this.
I realize that there are many flavours of Android. I do not see that as a negative. The Asus product has shown what you can get with a first class implementation of Android. We will see what happens with the next generation Tegra chip and new OS. It may suck. It may show that the IOS and Ipad are the way to go. The IOS and Ipad are not nirvana, in my eyes there are some problems with it. Both platforms will mature.
The Android-based Nook doesn't let you install any apps besides the ones B&N thinks should already be on it.
Did I at all mention I was interested in a platform specific Android pad? What you claim is a negative I see as a positive. B&N can optimize their tablet for the specifics of their market and customers as Amazon will do with theirs.
Does "Android" mean high-powered handset hardware? Maybe, except that they're putting Android on low-power pseudo-smartphones, too.
You do realize that Android is not a system that will not change don't you? I am not sure what your comment about cell phones has to do with anything. It is obvious that there will be multiple flavours of Android for multiple devices.
And there's the persistent performance hit from being a Java platform.
Android is not a Java platform. It is based on the Linux kernel.
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Artie, I think you hit the nail on the head. The vast majority of people I see and know with Ipads(and smartphones) are people for which it is just a toy and status symbol. Before everyone with an Ipad and Smartphone jump all over me please reread what I said.
Theodoric writes:
The vast majority of people I see and know
No USB and no flash support are huge negs in my book.
I think it’s just some yuppy marketing scam. To make a lesser machine that is more user friendly, I don’t get it.
Neither do I. The only reason I have any interest is my wife will need one to replace her palm pilot. But if we are going to have to get something I want something that will allow me to use it like I want to use it, not how Apple wants me to use it.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
You're the one who's responding from nothing more than pique and close-minded defensiveness.
You really need to learn how to read what people actually say not your fantasy of what they say.
Close-minded defensiveness?
Theodoric writes:
I do not find it inferior either but I do not find it superior.
THeodoric writes:
You may have read earlier, if you had read with an open mind, that the final decision will rest upon what will work best with her new clinic software.
Theodoric writes:
I may have to go with Apple and I am ok with that. I just have a preference.
Theodoric writes:
We will see what happens with the next generation Tegra chip and new OS. It may suck. It may show that the IOS and Ipad are the way to go.
In the words of Inigo Montoya
And that's the problem. Absent a defined hardware platform, software developers for Android will have to design to the minimal platform, which means people with more advanced Android handsets and tablets will be limited to apps that, for the most part, won't take advantage of the hardware.
Yeah that certainly killed the application development for Intel based pc's didn't it.
I mean, developers have already noticed:
Not a concern of mine. The medical software programs we need either have very robust support for android or are web based.
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The only thing I wanted to get to the bottom of was why you thought needing an iTunes account
Maybe if you read every line in peoples posts you would understand what they are saying just a little bit better.
Theodoric writes:
I am a freaky privacy issue type of guy. Apple is terrible in the realm of privacy. So is Google. The difference is I have already sold my soul to Google and see no reason to sell it to a different devil.
Also, I have had to deal with the Itunes people in the past. For 2 years I received the email notice of some woman's purchases on Itunes. Obviously she had put in a typo for her email and instead gave them my email address. I tried 3 times to contact Itunes to explain the issue. But they make it almost impossible to speak to a human being. After 3 nicely worded emails with no response or resolution, I started calling different Apple corporate #'s. For 3 months they gave me the runaround or told me that unless the account holder changed the email address there was nothing they could do. Basically, they told me to fuck off.
Finally I contacted Apple corporate security. I informed them that unless something was done I would continue to escalate it until something was done. Once the right people were made aware of the problem it was resolved immediately. Apple treated me like crap when I tried to inform them of a potential privacy issue for one of their customers. This is not the type of company I want to do business with.
Is Google better? I doubt it. As a matter of fact I know they are not any better, but as I said earlier.
The difference is I have already sold my soul to Google and see no reason to sell it to a different devil.
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What more do you want for an answer? Do you want me to make something else up so that it fits you preconceptions?
Froggie writes:
The only thing I wanted to get to the bottom of was why you thought needing an iTunes account - which, incidentally, you only need one on the iOS if you want to buy apps and music - was a dealbreaker.
Theo writes:
I am a freaky privacy issue type of guy. Apple is terrible in the realm of privacy. So is Google. The difference is I have already sold my soul to Google and see no reason to sell it to a different devil.
Why isn't that an answer?
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Since I have no pressing need for a tablet, I am going to wait for the Win 8 tablets to come out so I can decide which has the best features. I really hop it will be more PC like and not tie me one company(Apple, Itunes, Google, Android)
Google, like Apple has huge privacy issues and huge corporate responsibility issues. Maybe MS isn't much better but they are better on those issues and I have already sold my soul to that devil. No need to sell my soul to another devil if I don't have to.
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