As hooah points out, the very title of the topic speaks of PCs being replaced. And the OP and a number of respondents spoke of their "post-PC" devices having replaced their PCs. Therefore, the subject of tablets et al. replacing PCs was both implicit in the title and explicit in a number of messages.
Jesus fucking christ, I never said I've replaced my pc with my transformer. I said I replaced my laptop with my transformer. I even said several times very specifically that for heavy duty work like editing autocad files and programming I still use my pc.
Talking about grumpy old man using strawman...
Post-PC era means we're not so reliant on the PC for our everyday work and needs. It doesn't mean the PC is completely replaced.
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Most people carry their big-ass laptop around for a combo of work and fun, particularly on their commutes. Ipad users would carry both their big-ass laptop and ipad/ipad 2 for work and fun. I carry one thing, a laptop-tablet hybrid for work and fun. And my device lasts me 16 hours without the need for recharge.
Ok, I get it that you're a grumpy old man who is too set in your ways. But please stop strawmaning what I said. Every time a strawman iis used, baby jesus cries.
How can a tablet replace a PC when you need a PC to operate the tablet?
Correction. Only the ipads need to be plugged into the PC to work.
The only times I have plugged my transformer into my PC are when I need to transfer movies for trips.
Apple spends about a quarter of a billion dollars a year in their ad campaign. This is why people like you don't know there's a bigger world out there.
Don't get technical talk with me. Even Steve Jobs meant "all computers with a full operating system like linux, mac os, or windows) when he said PC.
Instead of nitpicking my words and dodging the point, perhaps you might want to try to understand the totality of my content?
It's like when I say "The nazis took antisemitism to a whole new level by specifically targeting jews for their extermination campaign." and then you would purposely miss my point by saying "but technically, the word "semite" refers to any number of people from the middle eastern region, so clearly your whole argument is bogus".
Let me guess, you're going to now refer to godwin's law to further purposely distract from my main point.
I did, on several occasions, specify exactly what I meant. Even Percy has said it several ties already, too. No one is suggesting we replace the desktop with tablets, a statement that you've repeated in at least a dozen posts now. And after each one, someone would try to correct you and you would just ignore that person.
So, let me repeat again. I stopped using my laptop and started using my transformer for everything I do outside of the home. But for more heavy duty tasks like editing autocad files, I use my pc at home.
I don't know how else I can put this. Post PC era doesn't mean the PC is completely replaced. Rather, it just means we now have a new kind of device, mainly the tablet or the tablet-laptop hybrid that I have, that replaces the PC where we used to have no other option. For instance, do I want to carry the ball and chains that is my laptop around all day when my transformer can perform all the tasks I need outside of my home and lasts 16 hours of continuous use? But this was not the case just 5 months ago. There was no alternative for me. 5 months ago, I had to carry my laptop around to get anything done outside of the home.
Try to think of it this way. When the cell phone came out, did anyone seriously think it would replace the landline? Hell, no. But it's a heck of a lot more convenient to be able to make phone calls without having to use those annoying phone booths.
Think about the airplane. Did anyone seriously think airplanes woud replace boats completely? No. But it made some forms of travel a hell of a lot better than boats.
The fact of the matter is I hear your kind of argument all the time from oldies I know. At my wife's family gathering a couple months ago, we had a chance to talk to one of her cousins, an oldie who's been making a living off of computers for 30 years. My wife told him how both of us have been able to use the transformer for everything we do. My wife is a therapist. We also stressed very carefully that we still use the PC at home for more heavy duty tasks. But outside our home the transformer does everything we need done.
Yet, her cousin's counter argument was the tablet-laptop hybrid woud never replace the desktop computer. Well, sure, but that wasn't our argument to begin with. Before, everyone had no choice but to carry around these ball and chains (aka laptops). And we were constantly looking for an outlet to recharge. How would you like it if you get a device that does everything a laptop does, can separate so that it can stand alone as a tablet with 10 finger multitouch screen, and you can go through the whole day without thinking about recharging the thing?
That's what I've been talking about, old man.
Would I use my transformer for some of the programming I do? Well, no. I use the transformer to debug my programs while riding the train. But I do the heavy duty stuff at home with my desktop.
So, please stop using that strawman that you created. No one is suggesting we replace the PC with the tablet platform.
Nothing irks me more than someone intentionally missing the point. I've been legally burned before by lawyers who misintepret everything I say.
For instance you claim this was a misunderstanding. What about the dozen posts I made specifically saying I use my transformer for most things but use my pc desktop for heavy duty work? What about all the posts percy made specifically saying no one is suggesting the pc is completely replaced by tablets?
That wasn't the misunderstanding, genius. Calm down and go back and re-read the last couple posts. You'll notice it has something to do with the PC/laptop distinction.
I did. The only reason you'd misunderstand that in the first place is if you only read the title of the thread and skipped through all the meat inside.
For instance, if I were to say "why did you wake up everybody in the morning with your heavy metal music?" would you literally interpret that to mean you woke up literally everyone in the world with your heavy metal music?
This whole "misunderstanding" seems to come from very dense interpretation of what's been said.
Macs are not user friendly to work on, and I would bet most IT departments do not have certified "geniuses" working there, so they can't work on them.
While it is true that amcs are not user friendly to work on, it is very user friendly for most people. And who are most people? They are the tech illiterates of the world.
Once upon a time I did try to use mac as my main work station. There are just too many limits imposed by apple for me to work comfortably. And the limits put there are understandable. They need them to make their systems stable.
The difference between PC and mac is like the difference between student A and student B
Student A enters college to experience the world. He joines half a dozen different clubs, outgoing, plays intramural sports, and enjoys the occasional drinking party. Works a couple of jobs along the way. He graduates with a 3.2.
Student B enters college to get high grades. Doesn't join any club or sporting events. Has friends, but not many. Studies hard. Graduates with a 3.8.
Sure, if you just look at the GPA you'd think student B is better. But when you start working with him you will very quickly notice this guy isn't flexible at all. If there's a nail that needed to be pounded and he's only got a pipe, he will absolutely refuse to use the pipe to pound the nail.
If the measurement is off by 1/8 of an inch, he will spend the next 2 hours to try to make it fit absolutely.
Our lab had one of these guys last year. Very high GPA when he graduated. Very book smart. Absolutely annoying to work with. Turned out he didn't know jack shit from what he learned. Even though he got an A in his concrete class, he had no idea why concrete needed "curing". Heck, he started out not knowing why he saw the guys pour water on freshly hardened concrete. I can't tell you how many times I had to pull him aside and explain the most basic concept in concrete engineering.
Our manager really thought we struck gold with this guy. Turned out he had nothing to offer beyond his grades. His work constantly needed rechecking, and I was the one responsible for that. It took him up to 5 times longer to do anything than anyone else.
The point is this guy's resume looks awesome. But in practice he couldn't do shit. And that's what a mac is. It's stable. Looks great. Very user friendly UI. Got a well reputable company behind it. Absolutely horrid to work with if you know what you're doing in the real world.
Mac will never become mainstream. It's just an IT nightmare to work with in the real world.
First of all, my member rating is .1 higher than yours. Take that, froggy.
My previous post was probably written with a lot of bias in mind. However, my comparison between mac vs pc and student A vs student B stands. The guy I mentioned will no doubt go on to get his phD and then get a really good job afterwards with no problem. He's got the grades and book smarts. His problem is he's got zero flexibility.
It's obvious your experiences are different than mine. I just haven't met a knowledgable mac user yet.
Oh, and pointing out the occasional pc user who doesn't know how to plug in ethernet cable doesn't count. There's always the extreme cases in every group. What I'm talking about is comparing the know-how people in group 1 vs the know-how people in group 2.
Finally found some time to look into Repligo and ezPDF - they appear to be Android apps, and I have a desktop PC. If you find any PC tools that do the same thing please let me know.
Nuance PDF Pro is a good one that I use. Adobe is just a horrid resource hog that I try to stay away from.
Other than that, you really should join us post-PC generations.
This says nothing about mac's graphics capabilities. I've met plenty of mac using graphics designers who didn't know jack shit about computers. They all admitted to me that the only reason they got a mac was because that's what graphics designers are suppose to get. They had no idea why they got the mac other than peer pressure.
That's not the point. I can't believe you guys completely missed the point of that video.
The point of that video is to debunk the long time belief (mostly by mac users) that only a mac could display a bunch of windows and videos at the same time. I've talked to mac users all my life. The general belief from that particular population of undesirables is that only a mac is "good enough" to perform such task.
In fact, an ipad user just asked me what multitask is while we were comparing each other's tablets on the train. It was obvious his attitude was his ipad 2 was better than my transformer. When I showed him the programs I was running in the background while playing my game, he just gave me a puzzled look. This guy actually didn't know there was such a thing as multitasking on a mobile device.
That's the point of the video. The point wasn't to show people how much better one is over the other. The point is to debunk a long time misconception about the mac vs pc issue from mac user perspective.
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