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jar
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Message 316 of 429 (637005)
10-12-2011 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by Percy
10-12-2011 7:29 PM


That's nice, again, if I had a clue.
On my Mac mini iTunes says it is 10.
I have no idea how to tell what version of iTunes is on the iPad2.
Are you updating on your iPad or some other computer?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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crashfrog
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Message 317 of 429 (637008)
10-12-2011 7:58 PM
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10-12-2011 7:49 PM


Are you updating on your iPad or some other computer?
You have to do it through iTunes on a computer, I think. This maybe is the last iOS update where you have to do that, but them's the breaks. Plug it into your Mac Mini and follow the prompts on the Mini's screen.

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Percy
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Message 318 of 429 (637012)
10-12-2011 8:07 PM
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10-12-2011 7:49 PM


Probably what Crash said is sufficient, but here's more detail anyway.
Bring up iTunes on your Mac Mini.
Plug the USB end of your iPad's cord into the Mac Mini.
iTunes should automatically recognize the iPad and alert you that there's a 5.0 upgrade available.
Click that you want to upgrade. If your iTunes isn't new enough it will tell you.
iTunes will start to download the upgrade, looks like it takes several hours.
When the download of the upgrade is complete it should automatically begin the install to the iPad. I haven't gotten to this stage yet, but I've heard reports that it takes an hour or two.
--Percy

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jar
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Message 319 of 429 (637013)
10-12-2011 8:13 PM
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10-12-2011 8:07 PM


Thanks. Apple sure makes life difficult. Makes even M$ seem nice.
Well, started it downloading using one of my windows machines. The Mac Mini didn't recognize the iPad.
Edited by jar, : update

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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crashfrog
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Message 320 of 429 (637019)
10-12-2011 8:50 PM
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10-12-2011 8:13 PM


Makes even M$ seem nice.
If you want to update the firmware on a Zune, Microsoft makes you amputate your own penis. True story!

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jar
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Message 321 of 429 (637020)
10-12-2011 8:51 PM
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10-12-2011 8:50 PM


If I knew what a Zune was that might make sense.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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crashfrog
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Message 322 of 429 (637033)
10-12-2011 11:14 PM


Well, I think I had the same problem Larni did - after a 4 hour download, it wouldn't update. My suspicion is that iit has something to do with how the firmware image is signed.

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PaulK
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Message 323 of 429 (637040)
10-13-2011 2:13 AM


Looking around the tech websites it seems that problems updating to iOS5 are due to the load on Apple's servers. My advice is to hold off from updating for a little while until the load is reduced.
From an Apple support page:
Error codes in the 3000 range generally mean that iTunes cannot contact the update server (gs.apple.com) on ports 80 or 443.
The error most commonly reported:
Error 3200: This indicates a network-connectivity or traffic issue. If you see this error, wait an hour or more and try again
If you are using a Mac and you get error 3004 instead, and if you are sure that there is nothing in your setup preventing communication with gs.apple.com there is something else that can be tried - see the linked page for details.
Jar, Zune is Microsoft's attempt to produce an iPod-like music player. Which they recently killed.

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Taz
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Message 324 of 429 (637041)
10-13-2011 3:04 AM
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10-12-2011 11:14 PM


crashfrog writes:
Well, I think I had the same problem Larni did - after a 4 hour download, it wouldn't update. My suspicion is that iit has something to do with how the firmware image is signed.
Nope. The failure to update is due to your device not being able to get verification from apple server, and that is due to dos attack on the apple server by apple's army of whiners.
Your best bet is to wait a couple days before trying again. There are already reports of permanent brickages on some unfortunate souls' idevices.
That said, don't you think iOS 5 looks a bit too much like android? Apple fanboys have been cheering for apple's newest innovations, you know, innovations like the notification bar... I mean notification center and the thumb keyboard... I mean the iOS 5 split keyboard.
I'd give them some slack if it weren't for the fact that apple's been on a suing spree against their competitors over patent rights.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 325 of 429 (637044)
10-13-2011 4:18 AM


iPad Update Experience
I may be screwed, I may be okay, don't know yet.
I left my iPad in the iTunes mind meld state and went to bed last night with 4 hours of download time left. I came down this morning and the iPad page in iTunes was blank, the iPad was off.
I turned the iPad on and it took me through a few setup pages of IOS 5. Evidently the install went fine.
When it asked if I wanted to sync with iCloud I said yes. After entering my account ID and password it displayed the legal agreement and I clicked Agree. It then informed me that there was nothing in the iCloud for me.
I then disconnected/reconnected with iTunes. It said I could restore from backup, but that failed.
So I felt I had no choice but to bring up the iPad as a new iPad, which I did. It's like a baby again.
But I got to the next page in iTunes and clicked on Sync, and it started syncing. I think I'm okay because the status window is advancing through all my apps one at a time.
It just finished and I'm only mostly okay. All my apps were restored, but none of my books, I lost all my organization of apps into folders (they're all presented flat across 5 pages), my cool background is gone, and my settings have been reset to the defaults.
I have one more iPad to go, but now I'm a little leery.
--Percy

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Larni
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Message 326 of 429 (637045)
10-13-2011 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 323 by PaulK
10-13-2011 2:13 AM


Thanks, PaulK.
I had the 3200 error. I'll wait a while and give it another go.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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Message 327 of 429 (637046)
10-13-2011 5:06 AM
Reply to: Message 325 by Percy
10-13-2011 4:18 AM


Re: iPad Update Experience
You should still have all of you books on your computer. It's a chore to put them all back on the pad but it' all still there.
Similar thing happened when I put my iPhone on a new PC. I also had lug all my bootlegged music into my iTunes folder on the new PC.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Percy
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Message 328 of 429 (637053)
10-13-2011 5:56 AM
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10-13-2011 5:06 AM


Re: iPad Update Experience
When I looked up the books I used to have at the iBooks store it let me download them without charge. So I have all my books back now.
When I looked up my audiobooks, though, no such luck. You're right, they're still in iTunes, but I'm not in any hurry to listen to any of them again.
It's taken me a couple hours, but my iPad is now in the same state it was yesterday, but with IOS 5. Why did I want IOS 5 again? There was a good reason, right?
--Percy

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Larni
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Message 329 of 429 (637056)
10-13-2011 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 328 by Percy
10-13-2011 5:56 AM


Re: iPad Update Experience
There's 200 or so new things that let you, um, well, er, have integrated Twitter?
Yeah, your right it's just about being a bit shiny.
That said I sat watching the 'restore iPad apps' pane flash green. Still, at least it's working now.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Huntard
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Message 330 of 429 (637057)
10-13-2011 6:33 AM
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10-13-2011 5:56 AM


Re: iPad Update Experience
Percy writes:
Why did I want IOS 5 again? There was a good reason, right?
Yes, the reason is that it has a lot of android features now....

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