Anyone ever heard of Rebecca Watson?

If I don't give a crap that someone doesn't like me because I'm female or calls me a cunt or thinks women out to stay home and raise kids instead of working the mines, which are certainly misogynistic notions, then I am not being victimized by misogyny. By succeeding in my life and career, I'm rising above the hate and victimization that ignorant people promote. I have chosen not to waste time worrying about what others think of me or the names that they call me.At work, things are difference because I do have avenues which to exploit if I am not treated with due respect. In my personal life, I refuse to acknowledge the hate.I'm off to party in Vegas! Be back later to finish replying later. Oh, and my last statement of my last post... not directed at you personally.

Um, yes, you can certainly be victimized involuntarily on your part. That's what "victim" means. And it's what makes your constant victim-blaming such a transparent camouflage for your utter existential terror that something you can't control might happen to you. We're not just talking about thoughts or names, though. We're talking about violence, real violence, and the threat of violence. We're talking about a culture that ignores threats of violence against women because women "should just choose not to be victims", and then when the next round of escalation results in her death or injury, the authorities shrug and say "how were we supposed to know that would happen?"Violence against women is born in threats of violence against women. They're worth paying attention to, not tacitly endorsing them by asking women to "stop being victims" and in turn encouraging escalating behavior.

To drift away from the discussion of misogyny, and move back to the topic of Rebecca Watson, here are a couple of reports on a talk that she gave yesterday (on Nov 10, 2012) at Skepticon: Skepticon 5 Day Two — Rebecca Watson on Evolutionary PsychologySkepticon, Post #2: The Saturday HeadlinersIt sounds as if she wowed them.

I'm not really sure how to respond to this. I can't determine whether you are serious or simply baiting me for your own pleasure, but you have such a talent for twisting my words to such a degree that though they bear some resemblance to my thoughts, they are so ugly that I feel almost feel ashamed of them.What exactly am I afraid of? And again. You put words in my mouth. If anyone feels threatened, then they should report these threats to the authorities. I've never stated in any way shape or form that it was okay for RW to be threatened. I do feel that most of the threats were made just to piss her off and get a rise out of her. But if she felt they were credible, then I hope she reported them.There is a big difference between people's ignorant opinions of women and someone making threats. The first you can ignore, which I do, while the second you take action.

Obviously you are a harlot, as opposed to the numerous other women who could not get that Real Job, nor did she have the looks and guile to manipulate the many many daily hits the men offer you to the advantage of however you might see that can profit you.Those other women have been raised in a sexually promiscuous culture which early on got them into situations that are bad for the Tax payers, bad for the fatherless kids they had, bad the crinimal jusctice system, and bad for the survival of America.The 1.2 million unmarried single young girls who kill their baby with abortion find this sexually promuscuous culture very beneficial.
However the 1.5 million illegitimate babies born to that other group of American women lead to the poverty of fatherless kids andthe bankrupting of the Government which pays $600 Billion dollars in Welfare annaully, now, more that the whole Military Budget.Worse, 70% of the violent crime inAmerica is caused caused by people raised by Single Mothers.The issue is that if oman like you insist that what you do with your own body be your business,thenyou must take the responsibility for what American women do to the nation. You must own the destructive effects that your demands that all women be enabled to doo as they please, in the bedroom and in the office, everywhere.

Gee, more misogyny! Why am I not surprised.Welfare programs providing monetary incentives to families with absent fathers were ill-conceived and a social disaster, but these programs no longer exist. Your chart is from 1992, well before they were eliminated by the Clinton administration. Since the early 1990's teen crime rates have fallen dramatically. This is common knowledge, it's been going on for years, and Googling about I had no trouble finding a news article about it from earlier this year: --Percy

*puts on a faux-Austrian accent*So, tell me about your mother...

Why bother, when all they'll hear from the authorities is your advice to "not let themselves be victims"? I don't understand the difference. Why else would someone make a threat? Can you elaborate?

Harlot? Well that's a first. lolYou know what my partying in Vegas constituted? Eating great food, drinking good wine, and hanging with my husband of 20 years and 11 year old son.And I do insist that my body is MY business. So if you're a man who has a problem with abortions, then don't fucking have sex with someone you're not committed to. And if a woman has YOUR child outside of wedlock, then fucking man up and be a good father to YOUR child.

I may have lost track of where you're coming from, but I don't understand why a defense against Kofh2u's arguments needs partying to be wholesome and innocent. Or were you just trying to be clear about yourself personally?Anyway, what form would the argument against the politics of victimhood take coming from someone who *was* (to use Kofh2u's term) a harlot? If we remove the argument from being about anyone who actually exists like yourself or Rebecca Watson and make it merely hypothetical, then what rights to complain about being hit on in an elevator does someone have who, to make the example a little extreme, sleeps around, smokes grass and has in the past used cocaine. In other words, does lifestyle affect what rights one has? Put another way in somewhat archaic terms, what right does someone who is definitely not a lady have to be treated like a lady?Or to flip the question, what does it say about men who ask women behaving somewhat flamboyantly or seductively up to their rooms for nightcaps but women behaving demurely out for coffee?--Percy

How was that accomplished?