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Author Topic:   Where do Creationists think the Theory of Evolution comes from?
mike the wiz
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Message 6 of 109 (259594)
11-14-2005 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Whirlwind
11-11-2005 11:12 AM


I think that Creationist's[general] think that evolution comes from Darwin, and they think he was a determined atheist, hell-bent on getting an atheist viewpoint validated. (none of that is actually the case, as everyone here knows).
YEC's in particular, like Mckay the YEC, seem to take the position that Charles Lyell was determined to get rid of Moses pertaining to Geology. His own theory is that Lyell wanted uniformatarianism validated in order to rid Moses from the Geological record so to speak. These are the more extreme views in regard to the premise that Scientists are out to get atheism validated. Infact I never heard McKay even mention James Hutton once, during his rants about the apparent conspiracies in scientific history.
Depending on the fervor of the creationist, they believe, to different degrees, that evolution originates from and is somewhat of a collusion amongst naturalist atheist philosophers. I know that from experience, most people I talk to haven't the brains to figure out why their own position is absurd. No offense to Christian creationists, but they should atleast read a book like "Short history of everything", by Bryson, in order to try and fathom how farcical and irrelevant the literal bible is to these giants of thought. Nor would they credit it with entertaining a theory that opposes it. They simply wouldn't bother.
The bible, they say [creos], denies the human wisdom of this world, and evolution is not registered as valid in their minds. Infact, they seem to be too obtuse to register that the scientific method infact is not human wisdom as such, because it infact reveals universal fact. It's infact the universal laws that are revealed. SO God would have to be saying that facts are false. How silly.
Evolution is, as Schrafinator regularly points out, (to a creationist), an exception. Because other theories don't apparently, to their minds, threaten their belief or are not contrary to scripture, they simply don't have a problem with them. Nor have they heard of them. Infact, they don't know much about evolution either, other than "they say we came from an ape and that's unacceptable".
Creationists I regularly speak to, when I argue with them, tell me that intellectuallism is a path you shouldn't go down as it is Godless arrogance.
The silliest thing about creationists, is that really they are not that at all (creationist). Mainly they are just ignorant Christians, or atleast all the ones I know are. They are people who accept creationism because it is simply the position that offers reinforcement of their religious dogma. It supports the bible, and apparently, in some cheap and pseudo-scientific way, proves the bible true, to them. Now that's all it takes!
I know that this is the case as I have been a YEC, an OEC, and I've been Christian. So I speak from experience.
Most "creationists", if you are talking about people who train themselves somewhat, are infact few and far between. I could name the popular ones on my hand. Hovind, Ham, Baugh, Ross... etcetera.
True creationists, I would have to say, are very few in number, and many believers will be easily swayed by what they say...as I speak from experience. So the average creo, IMHO, is just a believer following whatever a creationist tells them. You could turn up at a believer's event, as a ridiculous parody-creationist, and they would accept you completely because you simply emphasize your sentences with a reinforcing "amen", and confirm their delusion in any way you can.
Tragically, I am not being humourous. I am embarassed that I was creo. I think the only reason I got out, was because I am semi-intellectual. Average people are pretty content to not think about these things and so they render themselves gullible. I'm grateful I have a small compulsion to think. Infact, it is a total truth, that Crashfrog, "kickstarted" my dorment brain. Lol.

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